+1, I'm debugging through Java bindings as we speak... David Wood Policy Technologies Group IBM TJ Watson Research Center daw...@us.ibm.com 914-784-5123 (office), 914-396-6515 (mobile)
From: Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@sun.com> To: imperius-dev@incubator.apache.org Date: 03/24/2010 01:39 PM Subject: Re: Future of Imperius Sent by: craig.russ...@sun.com It looks like the community is small (11 committers including 4 mentors), but they have been able to produce a release that was voted and shipped. Not a small task considering everything. I'd say it's time to see if there is enough diversity and an interested enough community to graduate Imperius as a top level project. I don't see another TLP that would be a good fit. The diversity standard is three committers independent of each other. From what I know, there are two major organizations, Sun(Oracle) and IBM who are involved, and I know there are unaffiliated committers, but I don't know the affiliations of most of the non-Sun(Oracle), non- IBM folks. Who is out there who is interested in continuing to be part of the community? Please speak up now. Like by April 1. I agree with Kevan that we should announce the result of this thread in our April report to the incubator and make a decision by July on whether to shut this down or graduate it. Craig On Mar 24, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: > Oops. Let this slip by without responding... Apologies. > > On Mar 18, 2010, at 1:59 PM, David L Kaminsky wrote: >> I think the lack of response to this e-mail kind of summarizes the >> state pretty well. >> > :) >> >> IMO, Imperius is an excellent implementation of a policy engine, >> but either (a) it hasn't been well publicized, so only a small >> number of groups are using it, or (b) there is currently only a >> small group of potential users. Or some of both. >> > To be clear, my comments / questions have nothing to do with the > quality of the Imperius implementation nor with any of the > committers on the project. >> >> That puts the project in an intermediate state -- a small user >> base, perhaps growing very slowing, but with no immediate >> expectation of accelerating growth. >> >> If there were a substantial cost to keeping Imperius going, I think >> it would make sense to shut it down. However, I don't think that's >> true. >> >> Unless there's a clear reason to shut it down -- and perhaps there >> is one -- I'd suggest just seeing how it goes for awhile. I'd also >> wonder if there are ways to better publicize the work. >> >> Anyway, just my 2 cents ... >> > Apache is interested in fostering healthy, diverse, meritocratic > communities around open source projects. Incubation is not intended > to be a never-ending process. I think we should put a timeline for > making a community decision. > > Our next board report is April. The subsequent report is July. I > propose we make the July Incubator board report a target for > reaching a decision about what we think should happen to the > Imperius community. > > What do others think? > > --kevan Craig L Russell Architect, Oracle http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:craig.russ...@oracle.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
