By the way, I'm an independent committer.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Erik Bengtson <e...@jpox.org> wrote: > I would like to contribute more, but there is no clear roadmap/vision. > I keep asking to myself, if imperius is already full featured and only > needs maintenance and support ? > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:55 PM, David Wood <daw...@us.ibm.com> wrote: >> +1, I'm debugging through Java bindings as we speak... >> >> David Wood >> Policy Technologies Group >> IBM TJ Watson Research Center >> daw...@us.ibm.com >> 914-784-5123 (office), 914-396-6515 (mobile) >> >> >> >> >> From: >> Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@sun.com> >> To: >> imperius-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Date: >> 03/24/2010 01:39 PM >> Subject: >> Re: Future of Imperius >> Sent by: >> craig.russ...@sun.com >> >> >> >> It looks like the community is small (11 committers including 4 >> mentors), but they have been able to produce a release that was voted >> and shipped. Not a small task considering everything. >> >> I'd say it's time to see if there is enough diversity and an >> interested enough community to graduate Imperius as a top level >> project. I don't see another TLP that would be a good fit. >> >> The diversity standard is three committers independent of each other. >> From what I know, there are two major organizations, Sun(Oracle) and >> IBM who are involved, and I know there are unaffiliated committers, >> but I don't know the affiliations of most of the non-Sun(Oracle), non- >> IBM folks. >> >> Who is out there who is interested in continuing to be part of the >> community? Please speak up now. Like by April 1. >> >> I agree with Kevan that we should announce the result of this thread >> in our April report to the incubator and make a decision by July on >> whether to shut this down or graduate it. >> >> Craig >> >> On Mar 24, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: >> >>> Oops. Let this slip by without responding... Apologies. >>> >>> On Mar 18, 2010, at 1:59 PM, David L Kaminsky wrote: >>>> I think the lack of response to this e-mail kind of summarizes the >>>> state pretty well. >>>> >>> :) >>>> >>>> IMO, Imperius is an excellent implementation of a policy engine, >>>> but either (a) it hasn't been well publicized, so only a small >>>> number of groups are using it, or (b) there is currently only a >>>> small group of potential users. Or some of both. >>>> >>> To be clear, my comments / questions have nothing to do with the >>> quality of the Imperius implementation nor with any of the >>> committers on the project. >>>> >>>> That puts the project in an intermediate state -- a small user >>>> base, perhaps growing very slowing, but with no immediate >>>> expectation of accelerating growth. >>>> >>>> If there were a substantial cost to keeping Imperius going, I think >>>> it would make sense to shut it down. However, I don't think that's >>>> true. >>>> >>>> Unless there's a clear reason to shut it down -- and perhaps there >>>> is one -- I'd suggest just seeing how it goes for awhile. I'd also >>>> wonder if there are ways to better publicize the work. >>>> >>>> Anyway, just my 2 cents ... >>>> >>> Apache is interested in fostering healthy, diverse, meritocratic >>> communities around open source projects. Incubation is not intended >>> to be a never-ending process. I think we should put a timeline for >>> making a community decision. >>> >>> Our next board report is April. The subsequent report is July. I >>> propose we make the July Incubator board report a target for >>> reaching a decision about what we think should happen to the >>> Imperius community. >>> >>> What do others think? >>> >>> --kevan >> >> Craig L Russell >> Architect, Oracle >> http://db.apache.org/jdo >> 408 276-5638 mailto:craig.russ...@oracle.com >> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! >> >> >> >> >
