Hi Stellamaris,

 

Yes, we all understand that but best practice is NOT to name an object with 
descriptive labels such as bore hole, well etc. Look at the ones in the west of 
Uganda with multiple water related tags and names other than bore hole etc

 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8635407988

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8635407629

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8635407959

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8635409297

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8635407338

 

Its clear that many existing points don’t follow best practice but with an 
import its possible to get more complete and exact tagging prior to import. 
That’s what the mail list discussion is about.

 

Cheers – Phil

 

From: Stellamaris Nakacwa <[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, 7 November 2022 2:03 PM
To: Phil Wyatt <[email protected]>
Cc: Mike Thompson <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Imports] UPLOADING U-WIMP project data to osm

 

Hi Phil, 

This is part of the dataset that we used. I am highlighting that the 
significant tag of the dataset is amenity = water_point. However, for 
completeness, attributes including the name of the water point are essential  
You may be able to see that white your skill through the overpass query you 
have shared.  

 

Does that make sense? 

 

 

Stellamaris

 

 

 

On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 9:37 PM Phil Wyatt <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hi Stellamaris,

 

Have a look at existing water points and you can see the combination of tags 
that can/could be used. You will also see how some of the points have names and 
some don’t. Be aware that some existing records may also no longer be ‘best 
practice’ (ie source on each object rather than on the changeset). 

 

https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1nt0

 

HOT Uganda may also be able to offer advice from their past experience

 

https://www.hotosm.org/where-we-work/uganda/

 

Cheers - Phil

 

From: Stellamaris Nakacwa <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
Sent: Monday, 7 November 2022 1:15 PM
To: Mike Thompson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Cc: Phil Wyatt <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Imports] UPLOADING U-WIMP project data to osm

 

So, how do we label the results of our results that gave us the significance of 
this tag sequence? 

 

I am really curious and I would love to know how best we can work around it. 

 

Thank you!

Stellamaris

 

On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 8:36 PM Mike Thompson <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

 

 

On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 6:19 PM Stellamaris Nakacwa <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hello Phil,

 

We were able to make a thorough assessment of the key/value pair of all water 
tags, based on granularity,  compliance, consistency and completeness (temporal 
and spatial coverage) and what is written in my osm wiki is the most 
significant outcome of the assessment. --a snippet is attached too.  Also, I 
personally believe that uploading data to osm (esp. for  LIC) should not just 
be for the sake of uploads but to make real data contributions that those 
governing institutions and interested parties can rely on to make desired 
planning progress. In verbatim, I believe that all infrastructure is man-made. 
That is why for springs, we only mapped ones that have been well-built and 
cared for.  

Regardless if a spring is tagged natural=spring, the name=* tag is only for the 
name of the feature, not for descriptive information. Also, the name tag is not 
a way to cause the renderer to create a desired label that would otherwise not 
appear, that is tagging for the renderer.  

 

However, regarding springs, in my opinion, springs are inherently natural.  If 
there is human made infrastructure associated with the spring, separate tags 
should be found for that infrastructure, or perhaps it should be mapped 
separately.  Take the example of a lake where humans have extensively modified 
the shoreline, we still tag the lake as natural=water.

 

Mike

 

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