On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:52:12 -0700
Tim Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jun 29, 2007, at 3:53 AM, Michael Hunter wrote:
>
> > The 'ps aux', 'tar zxvf', '/sbin/ifconfig -a' types of things are
> > bigger generators of cognative dissonance for me when I move between
> > platforms then the top vs prstat types of things
>
> That's a subtle distinction. The fact is that developers seem to
> spend quite a bit of time talking to the shell, finding files, moving
> files, seeing what's running, boring housekeeping kind of stuff, and
> every difference, at this level, between operating systems A and B is
> a pure tax on my productivity with exactly zero benefit.
> When I
> first log into a system, I want the commands I'm used to available
> and I don't want to spend ONE MICROSECOND thinking about $PATH or tar
> options, I invested that time years ago and I have better things to
> do. So Indiana needs to make this pain go away.
I'm not really sure this is all that subtle. It seems to me like the
first set of things more closely maps to FAM-2 and the second set to
FAM-1 (and obviously there is cross over). Both of these things flow
out of the second paragraph of the summary.
I think FAM-1 is solved. It takes a lot of detail work to package
software in a reasonable manner and keep it up to date, but it isn't
rocket science. I believe its more of a challenge to keep people
focused on the requirements then solve big technical problems.
It was FAM-2 that I was focusing on. I talked about the types of
things that I stumble over day to day but there are other examples that
are not so "geeky". The last time I looked the network schema for HAL
didn't map so well to Solaris. Tools (meaning gnome programs and panel
applications) built depending on that codebase would act strangely. Is
it good that your PATH is fully populated but you spend a lot of
unproductive time dazed and confused trying to figure out why things
are slightly different between your Indiana and your Redhat machines?
mph
>
> -Tim
>
>
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