On 7/2/07, Tim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/documents/problem_statement/ > > [ just to recap, FAM-2 says: > > FAM-2: Provide an environment such that migrating (particularly > GNU/Linux) users will be familiar with the utilities > available, while preserving the binary compatibility > story that people want and expect. ] > > On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 11:26 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > > People would expect things like tab completion in the shell (and some > > shortcuts like Ctrl+R), top, ps aux, vim, tar zxvf to work, they don't > > care if they are GNU or not. I think that we should, at least, provide > > information to the user, when usual Linux commands are typed, on how > > to get the same information. For example, typing top, we could point > > them to the equivalent tool in OpenSolaris, kind of the Google's "Did > > you mean" or the new stuff in the ubuntu shell. > > Is this the sort of thing you mean: > > ---- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] PATH=/home/timf/command-wrapper:${PATH} > [EMAIL PROTECTED] export PATH > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls -la > total 30 > drwxr-xr-x 2 timf elc 512 Jul 2 15:04 . > drwxr-xr-x 123 timf elc 8192 Jul 2 15:03 .. > -rwxr-xr-x 1 timf elc 2465 Jul 2 15:03 command-wrapper.ksh > lrwxrwxrwx 1 timf elc 19 Jul 2 14:54 ps -> > command-wrapper.ksh > lrwxrwxrwx 1 timf elc 19 Jul 2 14:54 tar -> > command-wrapper.ksh > lrwxrwxrwx 1 timf elc 19 Jul 2 14:59 top -> > command-wrapper.ksh > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps aux > The command "ps aux" is unavailable or has different > syntax in OpenSolaris. > You might want to use the following instead - > Example: ps -ef > > See the ps(1) or pargs(1) man page for more information.
Or we could do what other operating systems did 15 years ago and get ps to give the information requested. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] top > The command "top" has is unavailable or has different > syntax in OpenSolaris. > You might want to use the following instead - > Example: prstat 1 > > see the prstat(1m) man page for more information. No, we should ship top and give users what they want. I regard the aim as being to provide a useful and user-friendly environment, not to explicitly advertise to the user how deficient and user-hostile Solaris is. Fixing this doesn't break compatibility. It enhances the environment for everyone. And it's not about Linux or whatever - I've been typing 'ps uax' and 'top' since well before Linux existed. -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ indiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
