Hi Alberto,

V út, 10. 07. 2007 v 20:55, Alberto Ruiz píše:
> 

> So they are people opened to choose, most Linux people have tried
> FreeBSD, BeOS, etc... they like to try things. We don't want to lock
> them, the choice is up to them, we just attract them and show them,
> that OpenSolaris have features that are not comparable to any other in
> the OS space, and we want to be sure, that the switch to take
> advantage of this is affordable (in terms of learning curve) 
> 

But you want to show them the userspace similar to their own, they will
not try to find the other ways of thinking.

>         I'm not against fixing bloody userland, I'm against just
>         clonning GNU
>         world and tools duplications, hidding benefits and overtaking
>         mistakes.
> 
> During the whole discussion, we have came up with really interesting
> ways to not just clone GNU. However, when we don't have something that
> GNU has, we should take it. I don't see how you have came up to the
> conclusion that we are going to just clone the GNU userland, clonning
> and making an effort to provide the most common commands and
> interfaces that people from Linux expect to find are different things,
> and I haven't seen anyone in this list towards the direction you are
> talking. 
> 

I know that you want to give them both ways. And I don't agree that it
it the correct solution. You will just create big mess, duplications in
tools. Something like catdogs.

> Is not about which one is better, is about what tools are people used
> to use and expect to find in other UNIX sytems, is about making an
> effort to make their life easier on switching. 
> 

But you will not create something easier for them. You will create big
mess. As I said, don't block them to install what they want. But don't
bundle duplications.

>         Teach, not mimic. Solaris should be better than GNU, not just
>         GNU.
>  
>         Find benefits, implement them, of course. But what is the
>         benefit of
>         sudo against our tools, except Linux users friendly interface?
> 
> Read latest Brian Gupta email. 
> 

I read it and I answered it, just to Brian, as I received his e-mail
personally first. If you want, I can resend it to all. No, there is no
reason in his e-mail to increase quantity of tools, with similar
algorithms, just with different interfaces.

Best regards,

Milan

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