On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 1:13 AM, Dave Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Moinak Ghosh wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Alan Coopersmith
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave Miner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As we all know, the live CD has grown quite a bit since the 2008.05
>>>> release.  I've spent some time analyzing how we're using the space and
>>>> where the growth between build 86 and build 94 occurred, and worked up
>>>> some recommendations.
>>>>
>>>> The analysis data is now posted at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/cd_space/
>>>>
>>>> The recommendations are posted at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/cd_recommendations/
>>>>
>>>> I would especially appreciate feedback from the desktop, X, and l10n
>>>> teams on the recommendations.  We'll work up an actual plan once we've
>>>> discussed a bit.
>>>
>>> >From the X perspective, dropping the screensaver hacks certainly makes
>>> sense
>>> - they won't even be active in the default configuration, and are pure
>>> eye candy.
>>>
>>> The fontconfig-docs are mostly developer documentation, so if we're not
>>> having
>>> a full developer environment on the LiveCD, it doesn't make much sense to
>>> have
>>> them either.   (The only ones I'd think are really useful to the end-user
>>> are the fonts.conf and fc-* utility man pages.)
>>>
>>> For FSWxorg-fonts, all the PCF bitmap fonts are currently shipped as
>>> *.gz files - we can also ship uncompressed if the LiveCD compression
>>> is better than individually gzip'ed files, or as *.bz2 if minimal size
>>> on the CD is most important.  (In Solaris, we ship them uncompressed,
>>> for best speed at runtime, and because the WOS media compresses the
>>> entire cpio archive of the package at once, which gets much better
>>> compression on our uncompressed files than gzip of each individual
>>> file can get - and for many C locale fonts, the difference between a
>>> 16kb uncompressed font and a 12kb gzipped font is not any real disk
>>> space - for Asian fonts the difference can be huge though).
>>> Unfortunately, the *bz2 support is currently not working in Xorg, but
>>> I'm working on fixing that.
>>
>>   The segment by segment compression in Lofi is inferior to stream
>> compression
>>   of whole files. Of course this changes a bit if we are using LZMA.
>> However even
>>   in that case LZMA can further reduce *.gz files. So leaving the
>> *.gz PCF files as
>>   is will be better.
>>
>
> Agreed, though using gzip-9 (if you're not already) or getting bz2 working
> would help some.  Note that we've found that the 7z tool does a better job
> of gzip compressing than gzip itself, so that might be checked into.
>
> Also, Moinak, thanks for volunteering to look at the package structure.
> One thing I should have said in the original mail is that I'm targeting
> having the plan defined by Sept. 1 in order to have time to implement any
> changes needed, so getting some indication of the possibilities here in the
> next couple of weeks would be helpful.

   I will get you an estimate in the next 2 days. I will also post some
   suggested font packages on xwin-discuss in a few days.

Regards,
Moinak.

>
> Dave
>
>



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