Depends on the compression used for the package, but the contrib
pkgadd file (bzip2) is 13MB for the GTK+2 variant of Thunderbird
2.0.0.16. Unpacked and installed, somewhere around double that,
26MB. On Windows Thunderbird uses about 24.3MB unpacked/installed as
well.
The only reason I can see Thunderbird was included in addition to
Firefox would be past issues with IMAP handling, which have been fixed
post GNOME 2.20.1, while we are now founding on 2.22.x+ on Nevada.
The other less likely reason is the hype behind Firefox weighing in to
prospect users who want to snatch and grab any Mozilla product because
it's Mozilla. Much like people don't care about redundant Google
desktop apps, since hey, it's Google!
Evolution has a plugin architecture, and also supports LDAP, which is
important to businesses. There aren't any real critical add-ons that
would tie someone to Thunderbird, unlike the situation of Firefox and
Firebug for example. Thunderbird too has support though limited in
some areas with regards to LDAP since it's more self-contained, but
for the audience this is not a real detriment as long as certain
preparatory actions are made on the back-ends. Update size could be
another reason to drop it, since they insist on upgrading all of
Thunderbird as a bundle, as opposed to Evolution, where a particular
dependency that's comparable to what's bundled in Thunderbird can
simply be upgraded without costing many users bandwidth. It's
unfortunate that the internet is expensive to run, and that most
nations have to pay for every gigabyte, but for upgrading a few
household computers a few times for our international users can be
really annoying for something pitched as gratis and libre. There's a
cost to redundancy you can't have the whole cake, and usually the
whole cake just annoys users and makes them confused anyway.
Cheers,
James
On Aug 10, 2008, at 3:56 AM, Chris Ridd wrote:
On 9 Aug 2008, at 19:49, James Cornell wrote:
It meshes better with GNOME, and it has exchange 2000/2003 connectors
with current versions, 2007 very soon. Theoretically it uses less
resources since it shares GNOME components, and I find it to be more
accessible from a business-minded workflow, as the contacts, calendar
and memos are better integrated. Google support (webcal) is another
perk. I argue the opposite, why Thunderbird? No major player Linux
or
otherwise bundles Thunderbird or ticks it by default if the user is
using GNOME. Thunderbird isn't like Firefox where there's an
immediate
dependence on rendering through gecko, or particular font needs, it's
e-mail, and e-mail doesn't depend on all the whiz bang things like a
browser does. I find Thunderbird to be redundant, and a waste of
space
because it doubles the library requirements as most Mozilla programs
are
self-contained for management reasons, while I can still argue
there's
nothing wrong with a client sharing GNOME resources since I've never
seen any installation of Evolution fail outright because of upgrades
and
the like.
That's a reasonable argument too. As long as you could still install
Thunderbird from pkg.opensolaris.org I'd be fine with dropping it from
the CD. How much space would it save?
Cheers,
Chris
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