On 6/20/07, Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Eric Boutilier wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, John Sonnenschein wrote:
> >> On 6/20/07, Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> d Debian?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for making my point for me. Do we really want OpenSolaris to
> >>> have the same problems? That's the path we're currently on.. -ian
> >>
> >> Sorry if I don't see it as a problem per se.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > Ian: In this regard, Linux and Solaris/OpenSolaris evolved in very
> > different ways. In OpenSolaris land, there already exists the optimal
> > touchstone: the Nevada core (and no less important, the environment and
> > processes from which it generates). In Linux land the common touchstone is
> > just the kernel. Pardon while I wax poetic, but that is no less than a
> > _profoundly critical_ difference between Linux and OpenSolaris.
>
> You don't get it.

> It doesn't matter if the common touchstone is just a kernel
> or the kernel and the entire userspace. The source
> code doesn't make a platform. The binaries make a platform.

I'm sorry... what? Yeah, it doesn't matter if the pile of code called
"OpenSolaris" is just the SunOS kernel, or if it's the whole of ON,
and yes the binaries make a platform... but how does this relate to
the current discussion? The binary distribution shouldn't be called
"OpenSolaris" any more than Ubuntu should be called simply
"GNU/Linux".

It's not an equivalence relation between the two of them

> That's why we need OpenSolaris to be a binary distribution.
>
> Trust me. I've lived this mess for the last 10 years, and
> it's been my job for the past 2 to try to clean it up,
> which turns out to be very difficult to do after the fact..

Linux being a mess has nothing to do with us.

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