Dear Shrikantji, Thank you so much for letting know the reason behind the word " पांढरी". Regards, Shobha
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar < [email protected]> wrote: > Dear Shobhaji, Dineshji, > Flowers of M. monosperma are nearly white when they bloom at night and get > a bluish tinge when they mature sunsequently. Flowers of M. pruriens are > deep blue all along. Besides pods of former have only one seed while the > latter has many seeds. The habitat is different, evergreen forest for > former and deciduous forest for the latter. Regards, > > On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:21:26 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote: > >> Thanks Shobha ji for elaborating your sighting. Many thanks Santhosh >> ji for the clarity among the two pods. >> >> Shobha ji, the word पांढरी (meaning white coloured) must have some >> reasoning while it was assigned to this M. monosperma - one case could be >> just to logically separate the two plants. >> >> Perhaps, some aspect of *M. monosperma* is "whiter" (read "brighter") >> than the *M. pruriens*. >> It could be just any aspect like stem, leaf, bud, flower, seed OR even >> the root. >> Those familiar with this colour logic may help us out. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Dr Santhosh Kumar >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Mucuna pruriens and M. monosperma are neither confused nor mistaken . >>> The foremer has a long pod and the latter has somewhat round pods >>> >>> Santhosh >>> >>> On 25 February 2013 10:23, Shobha Halwe-Chavda <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Anitaji and Dineshji, >>>> The climber was right near the steps of "Palasambe Caves" and a local >>>> person warned us about its itching property,so we stayed away from it and >>>> didn't dare to touch it.( By the way,also saw side by side the climber of >>>> huge Entada pod ( गारंबी) at the same place.) >>>> Dineshji,checked the plant in Flowers of Sahyadri.But off course the >>>> photo was of flower and not the pod,so didn't get the clue.Mr.Ingalhalikar >>>> has mentioned two Mucuna species.Mucuna pruriens ( खाजकुइरी) and Mucuna >>>> monosperma (पांढरी खाजकुइरी). Pods of both the species seem to be >>>> irritant.But i wonder why one is "पांढरी" ? Flowers of both the species are >>>> purple ! and pods too r not white ! >>>> >>>> Warm Regards, >>>> Shobha >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Shobha Halwe-Chavda <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanx Dineshji and Anitaji. >>>>> To Ushadi -U need not be so sarcastic.Very sorry to read such language >>>>> on Indiateepix. >>>>> Shobha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Anita: I have seen a dermatology book that talks of Farmers >>>>>> getting allergic responses to some vigna leaves, apparently they have >>>>>> some >>>>>> secretion on the tips of theirhairs... >>>>>> >>>>>> But not seen this... >>>>>> may be it / your experience should be added to medical knowledge >>>>>> about allergic response to the physical or chemical constituents? >>>>>> >>>>>> Wonder if any body wrote this up... in medical literature? >>>>>> >>>>>> Also goes to show that knowing the vernacular meaning is so important >>>>>> and knowing the nuances of regional knowledge is soo very important... >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks for telling me/us >>>>>> >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Aneeta Kindre >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Usha di ji, >>>>>>> Marathi word_Khajkhujali means Itching (irritation in skin_skin >>>>>>> khujana) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wenever d Pod of Mucuna comes in contact with skin, immediately >>>>>>> iching is started over there, so that local people named it as >>>>>>> Khaj-khujali / Khaj-kuiri !! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And Fortunately or unfortunately i hv experienced with both species >>>>>>> pod M.pruriens n M.monosperma at my farm (Pune region) !! >>>>>>> Skin touch experience was unforgotable n horrible ever !! :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Warm wishes, >>>>>>> Anita Kindre. >>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2013 10:16 PM, "Ushadi Micromini" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anita: >>>>>>>> nice to know the marathi name >>>>>>>> I dont understand Marathi language, wonder what does it mean? >>>>>>>> translated in english may be? do you know? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Aneeta Kindre < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Shobha ji, >>>>>>>>> There is no binomial nomenclature system in Marathi !! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But in Marathi it has Local name_ Pandhari Khajkuiri / Pandhari >>>>>>>>> Khajkhujali !! >>>>>>>>> N its Synonym is Stizolobium rugosum. >>>>>>>>> M.monosperma is native to western ghats !! >>>>>>>>> (Palasambe region included in W.Ghats) :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Warm wishes, >>>>>>>>> Anita Kindre. >>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2013 10:34 AM, "Ushadi Micromini" < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> you mean Synonyms? >>>>>>>>>> is there a word like synoname? >>>>>>>>>> i was not aware of it >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> also it would be Marathi names... >>>>>>>>>> not synonyms... >>>>>>>>>> Marathi names are not in the binomial system... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Shobha Halwe-Chavda < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanx everybody.Is it a local/Indian species,if so, can anyone >>>>>>>>>>> tell me its Marathi synoname? >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2013 8:33 PM, "Satish Phadke" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes* Mucuna monosperma* >>>>>>>>>>>> I have seen it in ghat section between Belgaon. and Goa. >>>>>>>>>>>> Dr Satish Phadke >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Shobha Halwe-Chavda < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please help me in identifying this rare fruit ! I was amazed >>>>>>>>>>>>> to see it on a climber near Palasambe caves ( near Kolhapur) last >>>>>>>>>>>>> week.Posting few photos for id. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shobha >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to indiantreepi...@**googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>>>>>>>> groups/opt_out <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to indiantreepi...@**googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>>>>>> groups/opt_out <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepi...@**googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>>>>> groups/opt_out <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Usha di >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to indiantreepi...@**googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> For more options, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> SANTHOSH >>> ------------------------------**------------ >>> Dr. E.S. 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