to me it's Pluchea ovalis regards Radha
On 22 June 2013 16:25, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > Dineshji, this seems P. lanceolata looking at entire and lanceolate > leaves. P. ovalis should have obovate and serrate leaves. Besides the > latter is a tall densely branched shrub 1-2 m tall. Pls check. Regards, > Shrikant > > Many thanks Shrikant ji for validating the ID. > > This plant is also found in Thane and Mumbai - near mangroves. > > The plant in this post grows about 2 m tall gregariously on large stream > bed at Karnala Bird Sanctuary. > The leaf in this post is oval or elliptic (acute at both ends) as well as > tomentose - just as the epithets (*ovalis* or *tomentosa*) would suggest. > On a close look, the margin is not truly entire; it is bluntly serrate or > dentate (not sure exactly what it should be termed). > > But if the description says *P. ovalis* must be obovate, then this plant > ID may need to reconsidered. > > This ID of *P. ovalis* (syn. *P. tomentosa*) was confirmed by Satish > (Pardeshi) ji in one of my earlier > post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1mDRWmO0rTc/yUvaz3t1TIkJ> > . > Would like to have Satish (Pardeshi) ji's comment. > Regards. > Dinesh > > Thanks for sharing Dinesh Ji, I am uploading in a separate mail the plant > I consider to be Pluchea lanceolata, with entire margins..hope that helps > to resolve... > > I think P. ovalis. Besides leaf shape in second photograph, the dentate > leaf margin, the crucial difference is auricled leaf base, which can be > seen. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > Many thanks Gurcharan ji for validating this ID. > Nidhan ji, looking forward for upload of your *Pluchea ovalis*; also > eager to find upload of *Pluchea lanceolata* during this fortnight. > Regards. > > Dinesh > > Dear Dr.Gurcharsinghji, I have been calling the attached plant with 5-8 cm > long, auricled and coarsely dentate leaves as P. ovalis. Pls ID this plant > that is strongly aromatic. Regards, Shrikant > > Thanks Shrikant ji for this upload. > Perhaps we may have clear picture at the end of this episode. > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > Dear Dr Gurcharansinghji, > As per T. Cooke flora outer involucral bracts > 1. ovate, acute is P. tomentosa (ovalis) > 2. oblong, obtuse is P. lanceolata > You can see these features in Dr. Rawat's post of P. lanceolata and my > post of P. ovalis > Hope this resolves ID of 2 Plucheas. Regards Shrikant > > Dear friends, > Recent Pluchea lanceolata posts by ... > Gurcharan ji: Pluchea lanceolata from > Delhi-GS11<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>... > Rawat ji: Pluchea lanceolata from > Uttarakhand_DSR_8<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/WsCeQk8iAFA/l6enVrAXMIUJ> > Nidhan ji:Pluchea lanceolata from Panipat- NS > 05<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/YxFCKlBRtpA/K6aVsfS2SBoJ> > All of them show aspects of plants to be consistent, especially the leaves > - entire margin, sessile. > > With as many as 8 species of Pluchea distributed in India (Gurcharan ji's > post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>giving > keys to 7 species of > *Pluchea* in India), I request you all to reconsider the ID of my posted > plant. > > I am showing another photo, and two cropped portions of it for a closer > look; hopefully the ID gets resolved. > Though the sighting is another location - Vaghbil, Thane on 14 JAN 11, am > confident that the plant is definitely same. > > I get a feeling that the leaf margin of my posted plant is serrate (or > sub-serrate - not sure of terminology) and most possibly is amplexicaule. > Regards. > Dinesh > > ... and I forgot to stress on this point: the plant stands about 1.5 - 2 m > tall, often in gregarious colonies. > Regards. > > Dinesh > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > Date: 3 June 2013 14:04 > Subject: [efloraofindia:156483] Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads) > :: Pluchea ovalis at Karnala Bird Sanctuary :: 30 MAY 09 :: DV21 > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads) > aster, daisy, or sunflower family > *Pluchea ovalis* (Pers.) DC. > *PLOO-sha* -- named for Abbé Noel-Antoine Pluche, French naturalist ... > Dave's > Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DPluchea&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdSiV36GTFETL-E2-dQVijzbcDhHA> > *oh-VAY-liss* -- oval ... Dave's > Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dovalis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcHWZPOa3ZtKbOPX_wmNL4JcL_kDw> > *toh-men-TOH-suh* -- covered with fine, matted hairs ... Dave's > Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dtomentosa&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeYWjhRWObnbyLPoK9bvJWjH4Wkcg> > > *commonly known as*: woolly camphor-weed • *Sanskrit*: कलम्बिका > kalambika, सिंहलतिक्त sinhalatikta • *Tamil*: கொழும்பு kolumpu, > கொழும்புவேர் kolumpu-ver • *Telugu*: kalamba > > *Distribution*: West Africa, Arabian peninsula, Pakistan, India > > *References*: Flowers of > India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FWoolly%2520Camphor-Weed.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdq_ypU3n93L0v80lvfV-7NzqbxQw>• > eFlora<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D5%26taxon_id%3D242426917&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc9U97iEdkA9ClkPOHpaPbViYoSwA>• > ENVIS > - > FRLHT<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fenvis.frlht.org.in%2Fbotanical_search.php%3Ftxtbtname%3DPluchea%2Btomentosa%26gesp%3D1238%257CPluchea%2Btomentosa%2BDC.&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdPOdjHKj3mxlu1jAk-AD4U_08fYw>• > Floristic > Survey of Institute of > Science<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fiscmumbai.maharashtra.gov.in%2Ffloristic%2520survey.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcUoz-zDUNsQiwoI1xlFNbeldxUlw> > at Karnala Bird Sanctuary between 30 MAY 09 and 14 JAN 11 > > [image: Pluchea > ovalis]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5354691786%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcsy4Mbs7qiVsYnpUC7utEAsKnVwQ> > > [image: Kolumpu-ver (Tamil: > கொழும்புவேர்)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4486218895%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdZLjzfFi-0GU5mAWotL52y7g948Q> > > [image: Kalambika (Sanskrit: कलम्बिका > kalambika)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578555708%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfnLpm0seppm1xZ6I7htJpHnTwL0Q> > > [image: Kalamba (in > Telugu)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578567064%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfewTCS2OQVIbLyt9srwCsMS5RDQg> > Regards. > Dinesh > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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