to me it's Pluchea ovalis

regards
Radha

On 22 June 2013 16:25, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> Dineshji, this seems P. lanceolata looking at entire and lanceolate
> leaves. P. ovalis should have obovate and serrate leaves. Besides the
> latter is a tall densely branched shrub 1-2 m tall. Pls check. Regards,
> Shrikant
>
> Many thanks Shrikant ji for validating the ID.
>
> This plant is also found in Thane and Mumbai - near mangroves.
>
> The plant in this post grows about 2 m tall gregariously on large stream
> bed at Karnala Bird Sanctuary.
> The leaf in this post is oval or elliptic (acute at both ends) as well as
> tomentose - just as the epithets (*ovalis* or *tomentosa*) would suggest.
> On a close look, the margin is not truly entire; it is bluntly serrate or
> dentate (not sure exactly what it should be termed).
>
> But if the description says *P. ovalis* must be obovate, then this plant
> ID may need to reconsidered.
>
> This ID of *P. ovalis* (syn. *P. tomentosa*) was confirmed by Satish
> (Pardeshi) ji in one of my earlier 
> post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1mDRWmO0rTc/yUvaz3t1TIkJ>
> .
> Would like to have Satish (Pardeshi) ji's comment.
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
> Thanks for sharing Dinesh Ji, I am uploading in a separate mail the plant
> I consider to be Pluchea lanceolata, with entire margins..hope that helps
> to resolve...
>
> I think P. ovalis. Besides leaf shape in second photograph, the dentate
> leaf margin, the crucial difference is auricled leaf base, which can be
> seen.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>
> Many thanks Gurcharan ji for validating this ID.
> Nidhan ji, looking forward for upload of your *Pluchea ovalis*; also
> eager to find upload of *Pluchea lanceolata* during this fortnight.
> Regards.
>
> Dinesh
>
> Dear Dr.Gurcharsinghji, I have been calling the attached plant with 5-8 cm
> long, auricled and coarsely dentate leaves as P. ovalis. Pls ID this plant
> that is strongly aromatic. Regards, Shrikant
>
> Thanks Shrikant ji for this upload.
> Perhaps we may have clear picture at the end of this episode.
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>
> Dear Dr Gurcharansinghji,
> As per T. Cooke flora outer involucral bracts
> 1. ovate, acute is P. tomentosa (ovalis)
> 2. oblong, obtuse is P. lanceolata
> You can see these features in Dr. Rawat's post of P. lanceolata and my
> post of P. ovalis
> Hope this resolves ID of 2 Plucheas. Regards Shrikant
>
>  Dear friends,
> Recent Pluchea lanceolata posts by ...
> Gurcharan ji: Pluchea lanceolata from 
> Delhi-GS11<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>...
> Rawat ji: Pluchea lanceolata from 
> Uttarakhand_DSR_8<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/WsCeQk8iAFA/l6enVrAXMIUJ>
> Nidhan ji:Pluchea lanceolata from Panipat- NS 
> 05<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/YxFCKlBRtpA/K6aVsfS2SBoJ>
> All of them show aspects of plants to be consistent, especially the leaves
> - entire margin, sessile.
>
> With as many as 8 species of Pluchea distributed in India (Gurcharan ji's
> post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>giving
>  keys to 7 species of
> *Pluchea* in India), I request you all to reconsider the ID of my posted
> plant.
>
> I am showing another photo, and two cropped portions of it for a closer
> look; hopefully the ID gets resolved.
> Though the sighting is another location - Vaghbil, Thane on 14 JAN 11, am
> confident that the plant is definitely same.
>
> I get a feeling that the leaf margin of my posted plant is serrate (or
> sub-serrate - not sure of terminology) and most possibly is amplexicaule.
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
> ... and I forgot to stress on this point: the plant stands about 1.5 - 2 m
> tall, often in gregarious colonies.
> Regards.
>
> Dinesh
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
> Date: 3 June 2013 14:04
> Subject: [efloraofindia:156483] Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads)
> :: Pluchea ovalis at Karnala Bird Sanctuary :: 30 MAY 09 :: DV21
> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>
>
>   Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads)
> aster, daisy, or sunflower family
>  *Pluchea ovalis* (Pers.) DC.
>   *PLOO-sha* -- named for Abbé Noel-Antoine Pluche, French naturalist ... 
> Dave's
> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DPluchea&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdSiV36GTFETL-E2-dQVijzbcDhHA>
> *oh-VAY-liss* -- oval ... Dave's 
> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dovalis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcHWZPOa3ZtKbOPX_wmNL4JcL_kDw>
> *toh-men-TOH-suh* -- covered with fine, matted hairs ... Dave's 
> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dtomentosa&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeYWjhRWObnbyLPoK9bvJWjH4Wkcg>
>
> *commonly known as*: woolly camphor-weed • *Sanskrit*: कलम्बिका
> kalambika, सिंहलतिक्त sinhalatikta • *Tamil*: கொழும்பு kolumpu,
> கொழும்புவேர் kolumpu-ver • *Telugu*: kalamba
>
> *Distribution*: West Africa, Arabian peninsula, Pakistan, India
>
> *References*: Flowers of 
> India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FWoolly%2520Camphor-Weed.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdq_ypU3n93L0v80lvfV-7NzqbxQw>•
> eFlora<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D5%26taxon_id%3D242426917&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc9U97iEdkA9ClkPOHpaPbViYoSwA>•
>  ENVIS
> - 
> FRLHT<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fenvis.frlht.org.in%2Fbotanical_search.php%3Ftxtbtname%3DPluchea%2Btomentosa%26gesp%3D1238%257CPluchea%2Btomentosa%2BDC.&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdPOdjHKj3mxlu1jAk-AD4U_08fYw>•
>  Floristic
> Survey of Institute of 
> Science<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fiscmumbai.maharashtra.gov.in%2Ffloristic%2520survey.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcUoz-zDUNsQiwoI1xlFNbeldxUlw>
>   at Karnala Bird Sanctuary between 30 MAY 09 and 14 JAN 11
>
> [image: Pluchea 
> ovalis]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5354691786%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcsy4Mbs7qiVsYnpUC7utEAsKnVwQ>
>
> [image: Kolumpu-ver (Tamil: 
> கொழும்புவேர்)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4486218895%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdZLjzfFi-0GU5mAWotL52y7g948Q>
>
> [image: Kalambika (Sanskrit: कलम्बिका 
> kalambika)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578555708%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfnLpm0seppm1xZ6I7htJpHnTwL0Q>
>
> [image: Kalamba (in 
> Telugu)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578567064%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfewTCS2OQVIbLyt9srwCsMS5RDQg>
>   Regards.
> Dinesh
>
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