Yes surely. Very good that you could capture the fresh flowers which is not the case every time.
Dr Satish Phadke On 22 June 2013 18:19, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > Many thanks Garg ji for resurfacing this discussion. > Thank you very much Radha for ascertaining the ID. > Regards. > Dinesh > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:55 PM, radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: > >> to me it's Pluchea ovalis >> >> regards >> Radha >> >> >> On 22 June 2013 16:25, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>> >>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>> >>> Dineshji, this seems P. lanceolata looking at entire and lanceolate >>> leaves. P. ovalis should have obovate and serrate leaves. Besides the >>> latter is a tall densely branched shrub 1-2 m tall. Pls check. Regards, >>> Shrikant >>> >>> Many thanks Shrikant ji for validating the ID. >>> >>> This plant is also found in Thane and Mumbai - near mangroves. >>> >>> The plant in this post grows about 2 m tall gregariously on large stream >>> bed at Karnala Bird Sanctuary. >>> The leaf in this post is oval or elliptic (acute at both ends) as well >>> as tomentose - just as the epithets (*ovalis* or *tomentosa*) would >>> suggest. >>> On a close look, the margin is not truly entire; it is bluntly serrate >>> or dentate (not sure exactly what it should be termed). >>> >>> But if the description says *P. ovalis* must be obovate, then this >>> plant ID may need to reconsidered. >>> >>> This ID of *P. ovalis* (syn. *P. tomentosa*) was confirmed by Satish >>> (Pardeshi) ji in one of my earlier >>> post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1mDRWmO0rTc/yUvaz3t1TIkJ> >>> . >>> Would like to have Satish (Pardeshi) ji's comment. >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> Thanks for sharing Dinesh Ji, I am uploading in a separate mail the >>> plant I consider to be Pluchea lanceolata, with entire margins..hope that >>> helps to resolve... >>> >>> I think P. ovalis. Besides leaf shape in second photograph, the dentate >>> leaf margin, the crucial difference is auricled leaf base, which can be >>> seen. >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> >>> Many thanks Gurcharan ji for validating this ID. >>> Nidhan ji, looking forward for upload of your *Pluchea ovalis*; also >>> eager to find upload of *Pluchea lanceolata* during this fortnight. >>> Regards. >>> >>> Dinesh >>> >>> Dear Dr.Gurcharsinghji, I have been calling the attached plant with 5-8 >>> cm long, auricled and coarsely dentate leaves as P. ovalis. Pls ID this >>> plant that is strongly aromatic. Regards, Shrikant >>> >>> Thanks Shrikant ji for this upload. >>> Perhaps we may have clear picture at the end of this episode. >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> >>> Dear Dr Gurcharansinghji, >>> As per T. Cooke flora outer involucral bracts >>> 1. ovate, acute is P. tomentosa (ovalis) >>> 2. oblong, obtuse is P. lanceolata >>> You can see these features in Dr. Rawat's post of P. lanceolata and my >>> post of P. ovalis >>> Hope this resolves ID of 2 Plucheas. Regards Shrikant >>> >>> Dear friends, >>> Recent Pluchea lanceolata posts by ... >>> Gurcharan ji: Pluchea lanceolata from >>> Delhi-GS11<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>... >>> Rawat ji: Pluchea lanceolata from >>> Uttarakhand_DSR_8<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/WsCeQk8iAFA/l6enVrAXMIUJ> >>> Nidhan ji:Pluchea lanceolata from Panipat- NS >>> 05<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/YxFCKlBRtpA/K6aVsfS2SBoJ> >>> All of them show aspects of plants to be consistent, especially the >>> leaves - entire margin, sessile. >>> >>> With as many as 8 species of Pluchea distributed in India (Gurcharan >>> ji's >>> post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>giving >>> keys to 7 species of >>> *Pluchea* in India), I request you all to reconsider the ID of my >>> posted plant. >>> >>> I am showing another photo, and two cropped portions of it for a closer >>> look; hopefully the ID gets resolved. >>> Though the sighting is another location - Vaghbil, Thane on 14 JAN 11, >>> am confident that the plant is definitely same. >>> >>> I get a feeling that the leaf margin of my posted plant is serrate (or >>> sub-serrate - not sure of terminology) and most possibly is amplexicaule. >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> ... and I forgot to stress on this point: the plant stands about 1.5 - 2 >>> m tall, often in gregarious colonies. >>> Regards. >>> >>> Dinesh >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> Date: 3 June 2013 14:04 >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:156483] Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid >>> heads) :: Pluchea ovalis at Karnala Bird Sanctuary :: 30 MAY 09 :: DV21 >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads) >>> aster, daisy, or sunflower family >>> *Pluchea ovalis* (Pers.) DC. >>> *PLOO-sha* -- named for Abbé Noel-Antoine Pluche, French naturalist >>> ... Dave's >>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DPluchea&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdSiV36GTFETL-E2-dQVijzbcDhHA> >>> *oh-VAY-liss* -- oval ... Dave's >>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dovalis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcHWZPOa3ZtKbOPX_wmNL4JcL_kDw> >>> *toh-men-TOH-suh* -- covered with fine, matted hairs ... Dave's >>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dtomentosa&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeYWjhRWObnbyLPoK9bvJWjH4Wkcg> >>> >>> *commonly known as*: woolly camphor-weed • *Sanskrit*: कलम्बिका >>> kalambika, सिंहलतिक्त sinhalatikta • *Tamil*: கொழும்பு kolumpu, >>> கொழும்புவேர் kolumpu-ver • *Telugu*: kalamba >>> >>> *Distribution*: West Africa, Arabian peninsula, Pakistan, India >>> >>> *References*: Flowers of >>> India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FWoolly%2520Camphor-Weed.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdq_ypU3n93L0v80lvfV-7NzqbxQw>• >>> eFlora<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D5%26taxon_id%3D242426917&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc9U97iEdkA9ClkPOHpaPbViYoSwA>• >>> ENVIS >>> - >>> FRLHT<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fenvis.frlht.org.in%2Fbotanical_search.php%3Ftxtbtname%3DPluchea%2Btomentosa%26gesp%3D1238%257CPluchea%2Btomentosa%2BDC.&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdPOdjHKj3mxlu1jAk-AD4U_08fYw>• >>> Floristic >>> Survey of Institute of >>> Science<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fiscmumbai.maharashtra.gov.in%2Ffloristic%2520survey.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcUoz-zDUNsQiwoI1xlFNbeldxUlw> >>> at Karnala Bird Sanctuary between 30 MAY 09 and 14 JAN 11 >>> >>> [image: Pluchea >>> ovalis]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5354691786%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcsy4Mbs7qiVsYnpUC7utEAsKnVwQ> >>> >>> [image: Kolumpu-ver (Tamil: >>> கொழும்புவேர்)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4486218895%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdZLjzfFi-0GU5mAWotL52y7g948Q> >>> >>> [image: Kalambika (Sanskrit: कलम्बिका >>> kalambika)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578555708%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfnLpm0seppm1xZ6I7htJpHnTwL0Q> >>> >>> [image: Kalamba (in >>> Telugu)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578567064%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfewTCS2OQVIbLyt9srwCsMS5RDQg> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >>> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>> alphabetically & place-wise): >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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