Thanks Satish ji for validating the ID. Regards. Dinesh
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes surely. Very good that you could capture the fresh flowers which is > not the case every time. > > Dr Satish Phadke > > > On 22 June 2013 18:19, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Many thanks Garg ji for resurfacing this discussion. >> Thank you very much Radha for ascertaining the ID. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:55 PM, radha veach <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> to me it's Pluchea ovalis >>> >>> regards >>> Radha >>> >>> >>> On 22 June 2013 16:25, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> >>>> Dineshji, this seems P. lanceolata looking at entire and lanceolate >>>> leaves. P. ovalis should have obovate and serrate leaves. Besides the >>>> latter is a tall densely branched shrub 1-2 m tall. Pls check. Regards, >>>> Shrikant >>>> >>>> Many thanks Shrikant ji for validating the ID. >>>> >>>> This plant is also found in Thane and Mumbai - near mangroves. >>>> >>>> The plant in this post grows about 2 m tall gregariously on large >>>> stream bed at Karnala Bird Sanctuary. >>>> The leaf in this post is oval or elliptic (acute at both ends) as well >>>> as tomentose - just as the epithets (*ovalis* or *tomentosa*) would >>>> suggest. >>>> On a close look, the margin is not truly entire; it is bluntly serrate >>>> or dentate (not sure exactly what it should be termed). >>>> >>>> But if the description says *P. ovalis* must be obovate, then this >>>> plant ID may need to reconsidered. >>>> >>>> This ID of *P. ovalis* (syn. *P. tomentosa*) was confirmed by Satish >>>> (Pardeshi) ji in one of my earlier >>>> post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1mDRWmO0rTc/yUvaz3t1TIkJ> >>>> . >>>> Would like to have Satish (Pardeshi) ji's comment. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> Thanks for sharing Dinesh Ji, I am uploading in a separate mail the >>>> plant I consider to be Pluchea lanceolata, with entire margins..hope that >>>> helps to resolve... >>>> >>>> I think P. ovalis. Besides leaf shape in second photograph, the dentate >>>> leaf margin, the crucial difference is auricled leaf base, which can be >>>> seen. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> >>>> Many thanks Gurcharan ji for validating this ID. >>>> Nidhan ji, looking forward for upload of your *Pluchea ovalis*; also >>>> eager to find upload of *Pluchea lanceolata* during this fortnight. >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> Dear Dr.Gurcharsinghji, I have been calling the attached plant with 5-8 >>>> cm long, auricled and coarsely dentate leaves as P. ovalis. Pls ID this >>>> plant that is strongly aromatic. Regards, Shrikant >>>> >>>> Thanks Shrikant ji for this upload. >>>> Perhaps we may have clear picture at the end of this episode. >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> >>>> Dear Dr Gurcharansinghji, >>>> As per T. Cooke flora outer involucral bracts >>>> 1. ovate, acute is P. tomentosa (ovalis) >>>> 2. oblong, obtuse is P. lanceolata >>>> You can see these features in Dr. Rawat's post of P. lanceolata and my >>>> post of P. ovalis >>>> Hope this resolves ID of 2 Plucheas. Regards Shrikant >>>> >>>> Dear friends, >>>> Recent Pluchea lanceolata posts by ... >>>> Gurcharan ji: Pluchea lanceolata from >>>> Delhi-GS11<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>... >>>> Rawat ji: Pluchea lanceolata from >>>> Uttarakhand_DSR_8<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/WsCeQk8iAFA/l6enVrAXMIUJ> >>>> Nidhan ji:Pluchea lanceolata from Panipat- NS >>>> 05<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/YxFCKlBRtpA/K6aVsfS2SBoJ> >>>> All of them show aspects of plants to be consistent, especially the >>>> leaves - entire margin, sessile. >>>> >>>> With as many as 8 species of Pluchea distributed in India (Gurcharan >>>> ji's >>>> post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>giving >>>> keys to 7 species of >>>> *Pluchea* in India), I request you all to reconsider the ID of my >>>> posted plant. >>>> >>>> I am showing another photo, and two cropped portions of it for a closer >>>> look; hopefully the ID gets resolved. >>>> Though the sighting is another location - Vaghbil, Thane on 14 JAN 11, >>>> am confident that the plant is definitely same. >>>> >>>> I get a feeling that the leaf margin of my posted plant is serrate (or >>>> sub-serrate - not sure of terminology) and most possibly is amplexicaule. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> ... and I forgot to stress on this point: the plant stands about 1.5 - >>>> 2 m tall, often in gregarious colonies. >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 3 June 2013 14:04 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:156483] Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid >>>> heads) :: Pluchea ovalis at Karnala Bird Sanctuary :: 30 MAY 09 :: DV21 >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads) >>>> aster, daisy, or sunflower family >>>> *Pluchea ovalis* (Pers.) DC. >>>> *PLOO-sha* -- named for Abbé Noel-Antoine Pluche, French naturalist >>>> ... Dave's >>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DPluchea&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdSiV36GTFETL-E2-dQVijzbcDhHA> >>>> *oh-VAY-liss* -- oval ... Dave's >>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dovalis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcHWZPOa3ZtKbOPX_wmNL4JcL_kDw> >>>> *toh-men-TOH-suh* -- covered with fine, matted hairs ... Dave's >>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dtomentosa&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeYWjhRWObnbyLPoK9bvJWjH4Wkcg> >>>> >>>> *commonly known as*: woolly camphor-weed • *Sanskrit*: कलम्बिका >>>> kalambika, सिंहलतिक्त sinhalatikta • *Tamil*: கொழும்பு kolumpu, >>>> கொழும்புவேர் kolumpu-ver • *Telugu*: kalamba >>>> >>>> *Distribution*: West Africa, Arabian peninsula, Pakistan, India >>>> >>>> *References*: Flowers of >>>> India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FWoolly%2520Camphor-Weed.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdq_ypU3n93L0v80lvfV-7NzqbxQw>• >>>> eFlora<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D5%26taxon_id%3D242426917&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc9U97iEdkA9ClkPOHpaPbViYoSwA>• >>>> ENVIS >>>> - >>>> FRLHT<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fenvis.frlht.org.in%2Fbotanical_search.php%3Ftxtbtname%3DPluchea%2Btomentosa%26gesp%3D1238%257CPluchea%2Btomentosa%2BDC.&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdPOdjHKj3mxlu1jAk-AD4U_08fYw>• >>>> Floristic >>>> Survey of Institute of >>>> Science<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fiscmumbai.maharashtra.gov.in%2Ffloristic%2520survey.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcUoz-zDUNsQiwoI1xlFNbeldxUlw> >>>> at Karnala Bird Sanctuary between 30 MAY 09 and 14 JAN 11 >>>> >>>> [image: Pluchea >>>> ovalis]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5354691786%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcsy4Mbs7qiVsYnpUC7utEAsKnVwQ> >>>> >>>> [image: Kolumpu-ver (Tamil: >>>> கொழும்புவேர்)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4486218895%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdZLjzfFi-0GU5mAWotL52y7g948Q> >>>> >>>> [image: Kalambika (Sanskrit: कलम्बिका >>>> kalambika)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578555708%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfnLpm0seppm1xZ6I7htJpHnTwL0Q> >>>> >>>> [image: Kalamba (in >>>> Telugu)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578567064%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfewTCS2OQVIbLyt9srwCsMS5RDQg> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species >>>> * & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>>> alphabetically & place-wise): >>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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