Dearest Garg Sir, Have a look please, for *L. ruderalis*, at the following sites -
1. http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=3&taxon_id=200020714 2. *you will see a number of pics, that fit Dr. Pennell's description,*eg. - http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=109006&flora_id=800 Again, i am sorry, i do not think this is my species. Neither KEW does think all (synonyms used by Dr. Pennell) is same - 1. http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2498864 2. http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2498855 3. http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2587063 Still, if you think Dr. Pennell is the last word then *why not take* the synonym *Stemodia muraria Roxburgh ex D. Don* ???, which is accepted as *Lindenbergia muraria (Roxburgh ex D. Don) Brühl* ??? Thanks surajit On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:22 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Surajit ji, > As you identified it earlier as *Lindenbergia urticaefolia* Lehm., which > is now considered a syn. of *Lindenbergia ruderalis *(Retz.) Voigt as > per latest litrature: Scrophulariaceae of the Western Himalayas By > Francis . Pennell (2007- Description & Keys- *Lindenbergia **grandiflora, > **macrostachya & ruderalis.* Also mentions > *L.indica*)<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=akXKOaT69SwC&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=Lindenbergia+macrostachya&source=bl&ots=tnwL5PyBCc&sig=6wWhxJ-FisRCsT7-lJai8BnzQHA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QBQCUtWYCoKMrQfbkoDYDg&ved=0CHgQ6AEwDQ#v=onepage&q=Lindenbergia%20macrostachya&f=false> > > Pennel is cosidered an authority on Indian Scrophulariaceae. > > > > On 8 August 2013 21:55, surajit koley <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dear Garg Sir, >> >> The following words are copied from the literature (Pennell) you have >> cited - >> *"......... the free lobes of both lips rounded; ......"* (*for L. >> ruderalis of Pennell; not of Voigt)* >> >> *I am very sorry that i fail to find any free lobes in the upper lip of >> my species.* >> >> Instead, you may try with 1) >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/Xy9ZCVzM4K4 >> or >> 2) >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/BkGZTIK4tYs >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think we can finally as per latest literature as below: >>> Scrophulariaceae of the Western Himalayas By Francis . Pennell (2007- >>> Description & Keys- *Lindenbergia **grandiflora, **macrostachya & >>> ruderalis.* Also mentions >>> *L.indica*)<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=akXKOaT69SwC&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=Lindenbergia+macrostachya&source=bl&ots=tnwL5PyBCc&sig=6wWhxJ-FisRCsT7-lJai8BnzQHA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QBQCUtWYCoKMrQfbkoDYDg&ved=0CHgQ6AEwDQ#v=onepage&q=Lindenbergia%20macrostachya&f=false> >>> taking >>> it as *Lindenbergia ruderalis *(Retz.) Voigt >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>> Date: 6 December 2012 21:05 >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:140003] Hooghly Today : Lindenbergia indica >>> Kuntze >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Sir, >>> >>> *Lindenbergia urticaefolia* >>> Lehm.<http://www.mpbd.info/plants/lindenbergia-indica.php>= >>> *Lindenbergia indica* Kuntze<http://herbarium.lsa.umich.edu/ordering.html>, >>> a wild small herb very common on old walls. >>> >>> ID Help : >>> >>> 1. >>> >>> http://ia600604.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?id=mobot31753000237419&itemPath=%2F32%2Fitems%2Fmobot31753000237419&server=ia600604.us.archive.org&page=n101_w1150.jpg >>> 2. >>> >>> http://ia700606.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?id=mobot21753000004357&itemPath=%2F23%2Fitems%2Fmobot21753000004357&server=ia700606.us.archive.org&page=n265_w1150.jpg >>> 3. >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/Yle92cTLL5c/discussion >>> 4. >>> http://www.arkive.org/lindenbergia/lindenbergia-indica/image-G119464.html >>> >>> It is interesting to note that FoI has two different species, using the >>> same synonym *Lindenbergia urticaefolia* !!! Also confusing (to me) old >>> eFI records. >>> >>> Thank you & Regards, >>> >>> surajit >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >>> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>> alphabetically & place-wise): >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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