Thanks, Surajit ji, *Stemodia muraria* Roxburgh ex D. Don is also a syn. of *Lindenbergia ruderalis *(Retz.) Voigt as per latest litrature: Scrophulariaceae of the Western Himalayas By Francis . Pennell (2007- Description & Keys- * Lindenbergia **grandiflora, **macrostachya & ruderalis.* Also mentions *L. indica*)<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=akXKOaT69SwC&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=Lindenbergia+macrostachya&source=bl&ots=tnwL5PyBCc&sig=6wWhxJ-FisRCsT7-lJai8BnzQHA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QBQCUtWYCoKMrQfbkoDYDg&ved=0CHgQ6AEwDQ#v=onepage&q=Lindenbergia%20macrostachya&f=false>
On 9 August 2013 13:03, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: > Dearest Garg Sir, > > Have a look please, for *L. ruderalis*, at the following sites - > > 1. http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=3&taxon_id=200020714 > 2. *you will see a number of pics, that fit Dr. Pennell's description,*eg. > - > http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=109006&flora_id=800 > > Again, i am sorry, i do not think this is my species. Neither KEW does > think all (synonyms used by Dr. Pennell) is same - > > 1. http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2498864 > 2. http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2498855 > 3. http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2587063 > > Still, if you think Dr. Pennell is the last word then *why not take* the > synonym *Stemodia muraria Roxburgh ex D. Don* ???, which is accepted as > *Lindenbergia > muraria (Roxburgh ex D. Don) Brühl* ??? > > Thanks > > surajit > > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:22 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, Surajit ji, >> As you identified it earlier as *Lindenbergia urticaefolia* Lehm., which >> is now considered a syn. of *Lindenbergia ruderalis *(Retz.) Voigt as >> per latest litrature: Scrophulariaceae of the Western Himalayas By >> Francis . Pennell (2007- Description & Keys- *Lindenbergia **grandiflora, >> **macrostachya & ruderalis.* Also mentions >> *L.indica*)<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=akXKOaT69SwC&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=Lindenbergia+macrostachya&source=bl&ots=tnwL5PyBCc&sig=6wWhxJ-FisRCsT7-lJai8BnzQHA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QBQCUtWYCoKMrQfbkoDYDg&ved=0CHgQ6AEwDQ#v=onepage&q=Lindenbergia%20macrostachya&f=false> >> >> Pennel is cosidered an authority on Indian Scrophulariaceae. >> >> >> >> On 8 August 2013 21:55, surajit koley <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Dear Garg Sir, >>> >>> The following words are copied from the literature (Pennell) you have >>> cited - >>> *"......... the free lobes of both lips rounded; ......"* (*for L. >>> ruderalis of Pennell; not of Voigt)* >>> >>> *I am very sorry that i fail to find any free lobes in the upper lip of >>> my species.* >>> >>> Instead, you may try with 1) >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/Xy9ZCVzM4K4 >>> or >>> 2) >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/BkGZTIK4tYs >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I think we can finally as per latest literature as below: >>>> Scrophulariaceae of the Western Himalayas By Francis . Pennell (2007- >>>> Description & Keys- *Lindenbergia **grandiflora, **macrostachya & >>>> ruderalis.* Also mentions >>>> *L.indica*)<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=akXKOaT69SwC&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=Lindenbergia+macrostachya&source=bl&ots=tnwL5PyBCc&sig=6wWhxJ-FisRCsT7-lJai8BnzQHA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QBQCUtWYCoKMrQfbkoDYDg&ved=0CHgQ6AEwDQ#v=onepage&q=Lindenbergia%20macrostachya&f=false> >>>> taking >>>> it as *Lindenbergia ruderalis *(Retz.) Voigt >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 6 December 2012 21:05 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:140003] Hooghly Today : Lindenbergia indica >>>> Kuntze >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sir, >>>> >>>> *Lindenbergia urticaefolia* >>>> Lehm.<http://www.mpbd.info/plants/lindenbergia-indica.php>= >>>> *Lindenbergia indica* Kuntze<http://herbarium.lsa.umich.edu/ordering.html>, >>>> a wild small herb very common on old walls. >>>> >>>> ID Help : >>>> >>>> 1. >>>> >>>> http://ia600604.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?id=mobot31753000237419&itemPath=%2F32%2Fitems%2Fmobot31753000237419&server=ia600604.us.archive.org&page=n101_w1150.jpg >>>> 2. >>>> >>>> http://ia700606.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?id=mobot21753000004357&itemPath=%2F23%2Fitems%2Fmobot21753000004357&server=ia700606.us.archive.org&page=n265_w1150.jpg >>>> 3. >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/Yle92cTLL5c/discussion >>>> 4. >>>> >>>> http://www.arkive.org/lindenbergia/lindenbergia-indica/image-G119464.html >>>> >>>> It is interesting to note that FoI has two different species, using the >>>> same synonym *Lindenbergia urticaefolia* !!! Also confusing (to me) >>>> old eFI records. >>>> >>>> Thank you & Regards, >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species >>>> * & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>>> alphabetically & place-wise): >>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >>>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the >>>> world): http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 2135 >>>> members & 1,61,500 messages on 31/7/13) or Efloraofindia website: >>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database >>>> of more than 8500 species & 1,70, 000 images). >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >> alphabetically & place-wise): >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world): >> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 2135 members & >> 1,61,500 messages on 31/7/13) or Efloraofindia website: >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database >> of more than 8500 species & 1,70, 000 images). >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> > > -- With regards, J.M.Garg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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