Hi Mr.Garg, On some smaller shrubs spines are not always present. You have consider the larger picture. Regards, Neil.
--- On Tue, 11/17/09, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:23175] Re: Elaeodendron glaucum To: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]> Cc: "Satish Phadke" <[email protected]>, "Vijayasankar Raman" <[email protected]>, "indiantreepix" <[email protected]>, "Robert" <[email protected]>, "oikos for ecological services" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 10:15 AM Hi, Neil ji, What would you like to say of no spines seen on the branches/ tree etc. in my plant? 2009/11/16 Neil Soares <[email protected]> Hi Mr.Garg & Satish, Sorry to come in so late. Was at a Marine Bio-diversity Camp in the Gulf of Kutch. It is definitely not Cassine glauca [Elaeodendron glaucum]. It is a Meytenus sp.- most likely M.senegalensis. Regards, Neil. --- On Mon, 11/16/09, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:23175] Re: Elaeodendron glaucum To: "Satish Phadke" <[email protected]> Cc: "Vijayasankar Raman" <[email protected]>, "indiantreepix" <[email protected]>, "Robert" <[email protected]>, "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, "oikos for ecological services" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 10:03 PM Based on Satish ji's observation, I again revisited all the threads on Maytenus senegalensis in Indiantreepix database. My further identification as Maytenus senegalensis based on the following thread is not correct (as the identification in the thread itself is now doubtful as there are no spines as also in my post): http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/e7618e541371f5e7 I am also ruling out Celastrus paniculata as it's a woody climber as per link of Forest Flora of A.P.: http://forest.ap.nic.in/Forest%20Flora%20of%20Andhra%20Pradesh/Flora%20by%20M%20Sharfuddin%20Khan/Botanical%20Names/Celastrus%20paniculata.htm These are the only species of Maytenus/ Celastrus/ Gymnosporia mentioned in Forest Flora of A.P. May Dr. Archer sort out the things now. 2009/11/16 J.M. Garg <[email protected]> Hi, Satish ji, What possibly I ignored most in the first instance was the white colour of my plant compared to the light green of the petals of Elaeodendron glaucum, which were also thinner compared to those of Elaeodendron glaucum. 2009/11/16 Satish Phadke <[email protected]> Dear Vijay ji and Garg ji. Both the plants are from family Celastraceae so the flowers are bound to be similar looking. Were the branches terminating into flower and leaf bearing spines? I may be wrong and open for discussion. I still feel it to be Elaeodendron glaucum. The points in its favour. The picture appears to be of a small tree rather than a shrub. The calyx lobes are deeply divided. We might get some opinions..... Regards Satish Attaching some more pictures of what I believe to be Elaeodendron glaucum 2009/11/16 Vijayasankar Raman <[email protected]> Dear Garg ji & Satish ji, Sorry to differ, I don't think it is Elaeodendron (= Cassine) glaucum. For me it looks like a species of Gymnosporia (= Maytenus). Let's wait for experts comments. -- With regards R. 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