Hi, Neil ji, I check all my original pictures (around 12) of two different trees, one of them a large one. I didn't get any hint of spines in these. 2009/11/17 Neil Soares <[email protected]>
> Hi Mr.Garg, > On some smaller shrubs spines are not always present. You have consider > the larger picture. > Regards, > Neil. > > > --- On *Tue, 11/17/09, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:23175] Re: Elaeodendron glaucum > To: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Satish Phadke" <[email protected]>, "Vijayasankar Raman" < > [email protected]>, "indiantreepix" <[email protected]>, > "Robert" <[email protected]>, "oikos for ecological services" < > [email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 10:15 AM > > > Hi, Neil ji, > What would you like to say of no spines seen on the branches/ tree etc. in > my plant? > > 2009/11/16 Neil Soares > <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > >> Hi Mr.Garg & Satish, >> Sorry to come in so late. Was at a Marine Bio-diversity Camp in the Gulf >> of Kutch. >> It is definitely not Cassine glauca [Elaeodendron glaucum]. It is a >> Meytenus sp.- most likely M.senegalensis. >> Regards, >> Neil. >> >> --- On *Mon, 11/16/09, J.M. Garg >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >* wrote: >> >> >> From: J.M. Garg >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:23175] Re: Elaeodendron glaucum >> To: "Satish Phadke" >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> Cc: "Vijayasankar Raman" >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>, >> "indiantreepix" >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>, >> "Robert" >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>, >> "Neil Soares" >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>, >> "oikos for ecological services" >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 10:03 PM >> >> Based on Satish ji's observation, I again revisited all the threads on >> *Maytenus senegalensis* in Indiantreepix database. >> My further *identification as Maytenus senegalensis based on the >> following thread is not correct* (as the identification in the thread >> itself is now doubtful as there are no spines as also in my post): >> >> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/e7618e541371f5e7 >> I am also ruling out *Celastrus paniculata* as it's a woody climber as >> per link of Forest Flora of A.P.: >> >> http://forest.ap.nic.in/Forest%20Flora%20of%20Andhra%20Pradesh/Flora%20by%20M%20Sharfuddin%20Khan/Botanical%20Names/Celastrus%20paniculata.htm >> These are the only species of *Maytenus/ * *Celastrus/ >> Gymnosporia*mentioned in Forest Flora of A.P. >> May Dr. Archer sort out the things now. >> >> 2009/11/16 J.M. Garg >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> >>> Hi, Satish ji, >>> What possibly I ignored most in the first instance was the* white colour >>> * of my plant compared to the light green of the petals of *Elaeodendron >>> glaucum*, which were also *thinner* compared to those of *Elaeodendron >>> glaucum.* >>> >>> 2009/11/16 Satish Phadke >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> > >>> >>> Dear Vijay ji and Garg ji. >>>> Both the plants are from family Celastraceae so the flowers are bound to >>>> be similar looking. >>>> Were the branches terminating into flower and leaf bearing spines? >>>> I may be wrong and open for discussion. I still feel it to be *Elaeodendron >>>> glaucum*. >>>> The points in its favour. >>>> The picture appears to be of a small tree rather than a shrub. The calyx >>>> lobes are deeply divided. We might get some opinions..... >>>> Regards >>>> Satish >>>> Attaching some more pictures of what I believe to be *Elaeodendron >>>> glaucum >>>> >>>> * >>>> 2009/11/16 Vijayasankar Raman >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> >>>>> Dear Garg ji & Satish ji, >>>>> >>>>> Sorry to differ, I don't think it is Elaeodendron (= Cassine) glaucum. >>>>> For me it looks like a species of Gymnosporia (= Maytenus). >>>>> >>>>> Let's wait for experts comments. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards >>>>> >>>>> R. 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