Sir,

Bold letter is meant only for my future reference, nothing else.

Regards



On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:58 AM, surajit koley <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Sir,
>
> Didn't imagine this simple very fragrant flower can invite so much puzzle!
> Bimal Da informs that it might be *M. alba*.
>
>    - Naming issue :-
>
> *Michelia alba* DC. - TPL
> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-50099121?ref=tpl1>
> recognizes but GRIN
> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/splist.pl?28260> or FoC
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120458>doesn't,
> while another document from China does accept -
> http://www.jse.ac.cn/wenzhang/aps06137.pdf. According to this particular
> pdf file - 1) *stipular scar nearly to half of petiole = alba* 2) *stipular
> scar longer than half of petiole = **champaca* . Unfortunately none of my
> photographs shows clear stipular scars (I was outside the boundary wall!).
>
> *Michelia* x* alba* (DC.) Figlar - GRIN
> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?452629> & FoC
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250090229>
> accept but TPL <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-252903>
> doesn't. TopTropicals features it
> <http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/michelia_alba.htm> and at the same
> time it features one *M. champaca* var. *alba*
> <http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/michelia_champaca.htm> (please
> scroll down the page)!
>
>    - Tepal issue :-
>
> *M. champaca* - 15-20 (FoC
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200008479>);
> 12-20 (FoP
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200008479>)
> *M. *x *alba* - 10 in FoC
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250090229>,
> but variable in TopTropicles
> <http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/michelia_alba.htm>. Again my
> photographs are not decisive about the number of tepals, one perhaps shows
> 12 tepals.
>
> The issue has been raised in another forum -
> http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fragrant/msg0201072222522.html?8.
> However, another interesting document/pdf is at
> http://members.tripod.com/hatch_l/woodymi5d.pdf which *groups alba, x
> alba and var, alba together* and the species - (i) *tepals very narrow,
> linear to lanceolate, twisted, spidery effect* (ii) leaves medium to
> light green against other spp. Yet another article
> <http://www.scribd.com/doc/40287694/Michelia-Champaca-and-Michelia-Alba>
> informs flowers are zygomorphic *irregular in alba* and zygomorphic with
> bilateral symmetry in *champaca*.
>
> So, finally I think this plant is not *M. champaca* L. and would like to
> follow GRIN or FoC naming convention.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Surajit ji
>> Please solve the puzzle lest I may be tempted to shoot out a name of
>> plant I had photographed in SFO Botanical Garden
>> Any way it is there in our forum.
>>
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:27 AM, surajit koley <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Until a little while ago I knew this is *Michelia champaca* L., the
>>> scientific name of CHAMPA. But the KEY
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120458#KEY-1-24>
>>> in FoC and an article
>>> <http://dokmaidogma.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/a-fragrant-magnolia-suitable-for-the-hot-and-dry-chiang-mai-valley/>
>>> drew my attention.
>>>
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