I think yes, and not really developing carpel region. Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:30 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Sir, > > Bold letter is meant only for my future reference, nothing else. > > Regards > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:58 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Sir, >> >> Didn't imagine this simple very fragrant flower can invite so much >> puzzle! Bimal Da informs that it might be *M. alba*. >> >> - Naming issue :- >> >> *Michelia alba* DC. - TPL >> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-50099121?ref=tpl1> >> recognizes but GRIN >> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/splist.pl?28260> or FoC >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120458>doesn't, >> while another document from China does accept - >> http://www.jse.ac.cn/wenzhang/aps06137.pdf. According to this particular >> pdf file - 1) *stipular scar nearly to half of petiole = alba* 2) *stipular >> scar longer than half of petiole = **champaca* . Unfortunately none of >> my photographs shows clear stipular scars (I was outside the boundary >> wall!). >> >> *Michelia* x* alba* (DC.) Figlar - GRIN >> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?452629> & FoC >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250090229> >> accept but TPL <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-252903> >> doesn't. TopTropicals features it >> <http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/michelia_alba.htm> and at the same >> time it features one *M. champaca* var. *alba* >> <http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/michelia_champaca.htm> (please >> scroll down the page)! >> >> - Tepal issue :- >> >> *M. champaca* - 15-20 (FoC >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200008479>); >> 12-20 (FoP >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200008479>) >> *M. *x *alba* - 10 in FoC >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250090229>, >> but variable in TopTropicles >> <http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/michelia_alba.htm>. Again my >> photographs are not decisive about the number of tepals, one perhaps shows >> 12 tepals. >> >> The issue has been raised in another forum - >> http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fragrant/msg0201072222522.html?8. >> However, another interesting document/pdf is at >> http://members.tripod.com/hatch_l/woodymi5d.pdf which *groups alba, x >> alba and var, alba together* and the species - (i) *tepals very narrow, >> linear to lanceolate, twisted, spidery effect* (ii) leaves medium to >> light green against other spp. Yet another article >> <http://www.scribd.com/doc/40287694/Michelia-Champaca-and-Michelia-Alba> >> informs flowers are zygomorphic *irregular in alba* and zygomorphic with >> bilateral symmetry in *champaca*. >> >> So, finally I think this plant is not *M. champaca* L. and would like to >> follow GRIN or FoC naming convention. >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Surajit ji >>> Please solve the puzzle lest I may be tempted to shoot out a name of >>> plant I had photographed in SFO Botanical Garden >>> Any way it is there in our forum. >>> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:27 AM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Until a little while ago I knew this is *Michelia champaca* L., the >>>> scientific name of CHAMPA. But the KEY >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120458#KEY-1-24> >>>> in FoC and an article >>>> <http://dokmaidogma.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/a-fragrant-magnolia-suitable-for-the-hot-and-dry-chiang-mai-valley/> >>>> drew my attention. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
