Thank you very much Sir. But, besides the colours of sepal and petal there are differences in lamina and anther (not seen in my pictures) colour too. If we follow FoC why don't we use *Nymphaea lotus* var. *pubescens* (Willd.) Hook. f.. & Thomson? There is also an end note in FoC - http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200007088
Regards On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Agreed both The Plant List and GRIN consider N. rubra as distinct species, > but having seen and reported huge number of errors in The Plant List and > Limited coverage by GRIN, I prefer to follow eFl of China being latest of > all Floras, and MULTILINGUAL MULTISCRIPT PLANT NAME DATABASE Sorting > Plant Names, both of which treat N. rubra as synonym of N. pubescens. I > have seen plants with both red and white flowers growing in the same pond > in Delhi and I could not detect any differences other than flower colour. > Besides my observation were very similar to eFl of China "*Nvmphaea > rubra* Roth. is sometimes treated as an independent species. Canard, The > Water Lilies: Monog. Genus Nymphaea 199.1905 distinguished *Nymphaea > rubra* Roxb. from *Nymphaea pubescens* Willd. on the basis of colour of > flowers and size of the leaves. In the former species, the flowers are pink > with larger leaves and in the later species the flowers are white with > smaller leaves. However, we have seen the plants with white flowers and > larger leaves or vice versa. Therefore, *Nymphaea rubra* Roxb. is treated > here as a synonym of *Nymphaea pubescens* Willd." > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:12 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Some related literatures - >> >> - http://archive.lib.cmu.ac.th/full/T/2008/biol0708wl_ch3.pdf >> - http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10722-014-0177-3 >> - a blog by Lalithamba Madam - >> http://floraandhrika.blogspot.in/2012_11_01_archive.html >> >> As per the document in the first link above this should be *N. rubra* Roxb, >> ex Salisb., the accepted name of which might be *N. rubra* Roxb. ex >> Andrews <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?415655#syn> >> >> Thank you very much Didi for your support >> Regards >> >> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 4:54 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Didi for raising my concern. >>> Regards >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Gurcharanji, Yes, i add my voice to Surajit's >>>> We definitely need a well thought out disscussion and may be a key >>>> >>>> I somehow think Gurcharanji had made a key a few years ago... >>>> >>>> but cant be sure >>>> >>>> so a discussion now would be appropriate... tonnes of hybrids in >>>> france, england and usa for the last 100+ years and privacy/secrecy by the >>>> authors of such hybridization does not help in simplification.. >>>> >>>> still.... >>>> this request >>>> >>>> Usha di >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:30 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I attach more photographs, KEY in BP & BoBO and entry of *N. lotus* in >>>>> FI, because, though I titled the thread as I found post of same >>>>> species >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/kQHDnBzDHkQ/CJXUCTj5ZyMJ> >>>>> (?) >>>>> in efi >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/n/nymphaeaceae/nymphaea/nymphaea-rubra>, >>>>> I think the accepted name of *N. rubra* should be sorted out to help >>>>> identify other red coloured ones. More so because Gurcharan Sir has >>>>> identified a red coloured in the thread >>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/9VO0GQhq1VE as *N. >>>>> pubescence*. More similar looking species ids pending. >>>>> >>>>> With limited knowledge, experience, resources I am confused with what >>>>> I found in FoC FoP FoNA GRIN TPL. >>>>> >>>>> Combining all the above efloras with Prain and Haines I think we >>>>> should follow FoC - >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200007088 >>>>> >>>>> I request Gurcharan Sir and others in the rank......... to take care >>>>> and inform us what should we follow. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:06 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> These pictures are from IBG >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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