Thank you very much Sir.
Regards
surajit

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Narain Singh Chauhan <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Very nice photograph.CONGRATS.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:50 PM, surajit koley <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much Sir. But, besides the colours of sepal and petal
>> there are differences in lamina and anther (not seen in my pictures) colour
>> too. If we follow FoC why don't we use *Nymphaea lotus* var. *pubescens*
>> (Willd.) Hook. f.. & Thomson? There is also an end note in FoC -
>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200007088
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed both The Plant List and GRIN consider N. rubra as distinct
>>> species, but having seen and reported huge number of errors in The Plant
>>> List and Limited coverage by GRIN, I prefer to follow eFl of China being
>>> latest of all Floras, and MULTILINGUAL MULTISCRIPT PLANT NAME DATABASE
>>> Sorting Plant Names, both of which treat N. rubra as synonym of N.
>>> pubescens. I have seen plants with both red and white flowers growing in
>>> the same pond in Delhi and I could not detect any differences other than
>>> flower colour. Besides my observation were very similar to eFl of China    
>>> "*Nvmphaea
>>> rubra* Roth. is sometimes treated as an independent species. Canard,
>>> The Water Lilies: Monog. Genus Nymphaea 199.1905 distinguished *Nymphaea
>>> rubra* Roxb. from *Nymphaea pubescens* Willd. on the basis of colour of
>>> flowers and size of the leaves. In the former species, the flowers are pink
>>> with larger leaves and in the later species the flowers are white with
>>> smaller leaves. However, we have seen the plants with white flowers and
>>> larger leaves or vice versa. Therefore, *Nymphaea rubra* Roxb. is
>>> treated here as a synonym of *Nymphaea pubescens* Willd."
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:12 PM, surajit koley <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some related literatures -
>>>>
>>>>    - http://archive.lib.cmu.ac.th/full/T/2008/biol0708wl_ch3.pdf
>>>>    - http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10722-014-0177-3
>>>>    - a blog by Lalithamba Madam -
>>>>    http://floraandhrika.blogspot.in/2012_11_01_archive.html
>>>>
>>>> As per the document in the first link above this should be *N. rubra* Roxb,
>>>> ex Salisb., the accepted name of which might be *N. rubra* Roxb. ex
>>>> Andrews <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?415655#syn>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much Didi for your support
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 4:54 PM, surajit koley <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Didi for raising my concern.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gurcharanji, Yes, i add my voice to Surajit's
>>>>>> We definitely need a well thought out disscussion and may be a key
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I somehow think Gurcharanji had made a key a few years ago...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but cant be sure
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so a discussion now would be appropriate... tonnes of hybrids in
>>>>>> france, england and usa for the last 100+ years and privacy/secrecy by 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> authors of such hybridization does not help in simplification..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> still....
>>>>>> this request
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Usha di
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:30 PM, surajit koley <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I attach more photographs, KEY in BP & BoBO and entry of *N. lotus* in
>>>>>>> FI, because, though I titled the thread as I found post of same
>>>>>>> species
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/kQHDnBzDHkQ/CJXUCTj5ZyMJ>
>>>>>>>  (?)
>>>>>>> in efi
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/n/nymphaeaceae/nymphaea/nymphaea-rubra>,
>>>>>>> I think the accepted name of *N. rubra* should be sorted out to
>>>>>>> help identify other red coloured ones. More so because Gurcharan Sir has
>>>>>>> identified a red coloured in the thread
>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/9VO0GQhq1VE as
>>>>>>> *N. pubescence*. More similar looking species ids pending.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With limited knowledge, experience, resources I am confused with
>>>>>>> what I found in FoC FoP FoNA GRIN TPL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Combining all the above efloras with Prain and Haines I think we
>>>>>>> should follow FoC -
>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200007088
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I request Gurcharan Sir and others in the rank......... to take care
>>>>>>> and inform us what should we follow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:06 PM, surajit koley <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These pictures are from IBG
>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
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