Very nice photograph.CONGRATS.

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:50 PM, surajit koley <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you very much Sir. But, besides the colours of sepal and petal there
> are differences in lamina and anther (not seen in my pictures) colour
> too. If we follow FoC why don't we use *Nymphaea lotus* var. *pubescens*
> (Willd.) Hook. f.. & Thomson? There is also an end note in FoC -
> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200007088
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Agreed both The Plant List and GRIN consider N. rubra as distinct
>> species, but having seen and reported huge number of errors in The Plant
>> List and Limited coverage by GRIN, I prefer to follow eFl of China being
>> latest of all Floras, and MULTILINGUAL MULTISCRIPT PLANT NAME DATABASE
>> Sorting Plant Names, both of which treat N. rubra as synonym of N.
>> pubescens. I have seen plants with both red and white flowers growing in
>> the same pond in Delhi and I could not detect any differences other than
>> flower colour. Besides my observation were very similar to eFl of China    
>> "*Nvmphaea
>> rubra* Roth. is sometimes treated as an independent species. Canard, The
>> Water Lilies: Monog. Genus Nymphaea 199.1905 distinguished *Nymphaea
>> rubra* Roxb. from *Nymphaea pubescens* Willd. on the basis of colour of
>> flowers and size of the leaves. In the former species, the flowers are pink
>> with larger leaves and in the later species the flowers are white with
>> smaller leaves. However, we have seen the plants with white flowers and
>> larger leaves or vice versa. Therefore, *Nymphaea rubra* Roxb. is
>> treated here as a synonym of *Nymphaea pubescens* Willd."
>>
>>
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:12 PM, surajit koley <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Some related literatures -
>>>
>>>    - http://archive.lib.cmu.ac.th/full/T/2008/biol0708wl_ch3.pdf
>>>    - http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10722-014-0177-3
>>>    - a blog by Lalithamba Madam -
>>>    http://floraandhrika.blogspot.in/2012_11_01_archive.html
>>>
>>> As per the document in the first link above this should be *N. rubra* Roxb,
>>> ex Salisb., the accepted name of which might be *N. rubra* Roxb. ex
>>> Andrews <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?415655#syn>
>>>
>>> Thank you very much Didi for your support
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 4:54 PM, surajit koley <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Didi for raising my concern.
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gurcharanji, Yes, i add my voice to Surajit's
>>>>> We definitely need a well thought out disscussion and may be a key
>>>>>
>>>>> I somehow think Gurcharanji had made a key a few years ago...
>>>>>
>>>>> but cant be sure
>>>>>
>>>>> so a discussion now would be appropriate... tonnes of hybrids in
>>>>> france, england and usa for the last 100+ years and privacy/secrecy by the
>>>>> authors of such hybridization does not help in simplification..
>>>>>
>>>>> still....
>>>>> this request
>>>>>
>>>>> Usha di
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:30 PM, surajit koley <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I attach more photographs, KEY in BP & BoBO and entry of *N. lotus* in
>>>>>> FI, because, though I titled the thread as I found post of same
>>>>>> species
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/kQHDnBzDHkQ/CJXUCTj5ZyMJ> 
>>>>>> (?)
>>>>>> in efi
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/n/nymphaeaceae/nymphaea/nymphaea-rubra>,
>>>>>> I think the accepted name of *N. rubra* should be sorted out to help
>>>>>> identify other red coloured ones. More so because Gurcharan Sir has
>>>>>> identified a red coloured in the thread
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/9VO0GQhq1VE as *N.
>>>>>> pubescence*. More similar looking species ids pending.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With limited knowledge, experience, resources I am confused with what
>>>>>> I found in FoC FoP FoNA GRIN TPL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Combining all the above efloras with Prain and Haines I think we
>>>>>> should follow FoC -
>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200007088
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I request Gurcharan Sir and others in the rank......... to take care
>>>>>> and inform us what should we follow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:06 PM, surajit koley <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These pictures are from IBG
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
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