Surajit do start it look Prashant want you to , too. usha di On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Prashant Awale <[email protected]> wrote: > > Really interesting, Do share the story Surajit ji.. > Regards > Prashant > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Wow Surajit >> >> Lets put these two a separate thread... "wonders of seeds and stories:.. >> >> Since you have the pictures you start the thread and I'll add the second >> story after you and >> the thread slowly would take a life of its own.... >> love it >> >> tell us IN THAT SEP thread the story of the dolls of jatropha where did >> you hear it or read it and how di it effect you oe yours >> >> love it >> >> Usha di >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:23 AM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Beautiful, Didi, yes, these are the wonders of nature children love. The >>> other day I learned about little dolls of *Jatropha gossypifolia*. >>> >>> And there is KEY based on hilum of *Cardiospermum* - >>> {i} large heart shaped hilum = *halicacabum* >>> (ii) small orbicular hilum = *canescens* >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> yes, Surajit >>>> >>>> as we were growing up thats what fascinated us.. >>>> because my dad said it was called cardiospermum >>>> >>>> we were full of curiosity at that information... >>>> >>>> its name and a heart on the seed.... >>>> >>>> stuff that fills a child's head... >>>> dreams of becoming a botanist, naturalist, scientist >>>> >>>> they start very young >>>> all it needs is a seed >>>> a flower >>>> a fleeting butterfly >>>> or a dead one with iridescent wings >>>> a pebble >>>> river with dolphin in water that flows upstream.. >>>> anything >>>> if the adults can tell short nice stories >>>> >>>> children are easy to entertain and enrich. >>>> >>>> usha di >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:04 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Didi, >>>>> >>>>> Did you mean heart shaped hilum on the seeds? I have learnt that >>>>> earlier from Nidhan Sir. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> SUrajit >>>>>> imeant when the fruits are ripe look >>>>>> collect and photograph >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> they are psectacular >>>>>> >>>>>> little kids just love em >>>>>> >>>>>> usha d >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:19 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Didi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is common wild vine in Hooghly. I have an earlier post >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/23nD7A1sq3A/RWCJfCudi-IJ>, >>>>>>> when I thought it to be a *Physalis* species! In fact one of my >>>>>>> botanist friend suggested that! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:16 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's right, SUrajit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you agree then that flowers of c halicacabum is much smaller than >>>>>>>> the balloon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and now you have your own pic and specimen >>>>>>>> did you collect some of the balloons? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> is it growing wild or some one planted these in Hooghly >>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:39 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Didi, >>>>>>>>> Flowers of *C. helicacabum* are about 5 mm across and fruits are >>>>>>>>> about 3 cm across. I have recorded one today. >>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So Surajit, Vijaya and Prabhu KUmar all agree to the diagnosis of >>>>>>>>>> Cardiospermum canescens. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I was uncomfortable with Cardiaspermum halicacabum >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Vijayasankar < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is *Cardiospermum corindum* (= *C. canescens*). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ref. TPL <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2700762> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>>>>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Prabhu kumar Km < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This should be *Cardiospermum canescens, *a pantropical >>>>>>>>>>>> species normally seen in dry deciduous forest >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:40 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is very interesting to note that KEW herbarium marked as >>>>>>>>>>>>> type species of *C. corindum* L. is very similar to what I >>>>>>>>>>>>> see here - *C. helicacabum* L., a very common herb (and we >>>>>>>>>>>>> have only this one here, in Hooghly) - >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000074511 >>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000037467 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Compared to above is a herbarium of *C. helicacabum* var. >>>>>>>>>>>>> *microcarpum* Miq. - >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000037458 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Flowers of *C. helicacabum* are very small as per Hooker, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Haines, Prain, compared with the photographs attached here. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wallich herbarium of *C. canescens* can be viewed at KEW - >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000701890 >>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this species is *C. canescens*, where leaves are >>>>>>>>>>>>> (mostly) not acuminate tipped. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:59 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> first... how big are these flowers...??? it seems the flower >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the fuit are the same size see the last pic above .... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> secondly... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have had lively and scientific discussion on two >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cardiospermum sp in india >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> several threads exist... foi has had problems dont if they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were corrected >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but look at our threads >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 this was very informative and collegial... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix/cardiospermum/indiantreepix/l64pEel31ZI/m4_ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16M8S1xwJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread started by dinesh and biswajit and gurmuth sending in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> very useful data >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2: and key pdf in this thread:https://groups.google. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/cardiospermum/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix/l64pEel31ZI/m4_16M8S1xwJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> so tell me what is this sp in this thread based on the key in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the above thread >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cardiospermum >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/sapindaceae/cardiospermum> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published >>>>>>>>>>>>>> papers/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It can be Cardiospermum corindum >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/sapindaceae/cardiospermum/cardiospermum-corindum> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from me >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is *Cardiospermum corindum-* from Santhan ji. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cardiospermum microcarpum. 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