Really interesting, Do share the story Surajit ji.. Regards Prashant On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Ushadi Micromini < [email protected]> wrote:
> Wow Surajit > > Lets put these two a separate thread... "wonders of seeds and stories:.. > > Since you have the pictures you start the thread and I'll add the second > story after you and > the thread slowly would take a life of its own.... > love it > > tell us IN THAT SEP thread the story of the dolls of jatropha where did > you hear it or read it and how di it effect you oe yours > > love it > > Usha di > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:23 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Beautiful, Didi, yes, these are the wonders of nature children love. The >> other day I learned about little dolls of *Jatropha gossypifolia*. >> >> And there is KEY based on hilum of *Cardiospermum* - >> {i} large heart shaped hilum = *halicacabum* >> (ii) small orbicular hilum = *canescens* >> >> Thank you >> Regards >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> yes, Surajit >>> >>> as we were growing up thats what fascinated us.. >>> because my dad said it was called cardiospermum >>> >>> we were full of curiosity at that information... >>> >>> its name and a heart on the seed.... >>> >>> stuff that fills a child's head... >>> dreams of becoming a botanist, naturalist, scientist >>> >>> they start very young >>> all it needs is a seed >>> a flower >>> a fleeting butterfly >>> or a dead one with iridescent wings >>> a pebble >>> river with dolphin in water that flows upstream.. >>> anything >>> if the adults can tell short nice stories >>> >>> children are easy to entertain and enrich. >>> >>> usha di >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:04 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Didi, >>>> >>>> Did you mean heart shaped hilum on the seeds? I have learnt that >>>> earlier from Nidhan Sir. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> SUrajit >>>>> imeant when the fruits are ripe look >>>>> collect and photograph >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> they are psectacular >>>>> >>>>> little kids just love em >>>>> >>>>> usha d >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:19 AM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Didi, >>>>>> >>>>>> It is common wild vine in Hooghly. I have an earlier post >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/23nD7A1sq3A/RWCJfCudi-IJ>, >>>>>> when I thought it to be a *Physalis* species! In fact one of my >>>>>> botanist friend suggested that! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:16 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That's right, SUrajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you agree then that flowers of c halicacabum is much smaller than >>>>>>> the balloon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and now you have your own pic and specimen >>>>>>> did you collect some of the balloons? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> is it growing wild or some one planted these in Hooghly >>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:39 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Didi, >>>>>>>> Flowers of *C. helicacabum* are about 5 mm across and fruits are >>>>>>>> about 3 cm across. I have recorded one today. >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So Surajit, Vijaya and Prabhu KUmar all agree to the diagnosis of >>>>>>>>> Cardiospermum canescens. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was uncomfortable with Cardiaspermum halicacabum >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Vijayasankar < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is *Cardiospermum corindum* (= *C. canescens*). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ref. TPL <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2700762> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>>>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Prabhu kumar Km < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This should be *Cardiospermum canescens, *a pantropical species >>>>>>>>>>> normally seen in dry deciduous forest >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:40 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It is very interesting to note that KEW herbarium marked as >>>>>>>>>>>> type species of *C. corindum* L. is very similar to what I see >>>>>>>>>>>> here - *C. helicacabum* L., a very common herb (and we have >>>>>>>>>>>> only this one here, in Hooghly) - >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000074511 >>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000037467 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Compared to above is a herbarium of *C. helicacabum* var. >>>>>>>>>>>> *microcarpum* Miq. - >>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000037458 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Flowers of *C. helicacabum* are very small as per Hooker, >>>>>>>>>>>> Haines, Prain, compared with the photographs attached here. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wallich herbarium of *C. canescens* can be viewed at KEW - >>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000701890 >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think this species is *C. canescens*, where leaves are >>>>>>>>>>>> (mostly) not acuminate tipped. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:59 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> first... how big are these flowers...??? it seems the flower >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the fuit are the same size see the last pic above .... >>>>>>>>>>>>> secondly... >>>>>>>>>>>>> we have had lively and scientific discussion on two >>>>>>>>>>>>> cardiospermum sp in india >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> several threads exist... foi has had problems dont if they >>>>>>>>>>>>> were corrected >>>>>>>>>>>>> but look at our threads >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 this was very informative and collegial... >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix/cardiospermum/indiantreepix/l64pEel31ZI/m4_ >>>>>>>>>>>>> 16M8S1xwJ >>>>>>>>>>>>> thread started by dinesh and biswajit and gurmuth sending in >>>>>>>>>>>>> very useful data >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2: and key pdf in this thread:https://groups.google. >>>>>>>>>>>>> com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/cardiospermum/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix/l64pEel31ZI/m4_16M8S1xwJ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> so tell me what is this sp in this thread based on the key in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the above thread >>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cardiospermum >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/sapindaceae/cardiospermum> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>> species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published >>>>>>>>>>>>> papers/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever >>>>>>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>>>>>> It can be Cardiospermum corindum >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/sapindaceae/cardiospermum/cardiospermum-corindum> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>> from me >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is *Cardiospermum corindum-* from Santhan ji. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cardiospermum microcarpum. Regards Shrikant >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> efi page on Cardiospermum microcarpum >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/sapindaceae/cardiospermum/cardiospermum-microcarpum> >>>>>>>>>>>>> & Cardiospermum corindum >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/sapindaceae/cardiospermum/cardiospermum-corindum> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Narendra Joshi <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 22 November 2014 at 17:57 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:206919] A climber for ID (21/11/2014 - >>>>>>>>>>>>> NSJ-02) >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A climber for ID. 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