Well, Didi, Prashant Ji, I have started the thread separately! Thank you Regards
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Ushadi Micromini <[email protected] > wrote: > Surajit > do start it > look Prashant want you to , too. > usha di > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Prashant Awale <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Really interesting, Do share the story Surajit ji.. >> Regards >> Prashant >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Wow Surajit >>> >>> Lets put these two a separate thread... "wonders of seeds and stories:.. >>> >>> Since you have the pictures you start the thread and I'll add the >>> second story after you and >>> the thread slowly would take a life of its own.... >>> love it >>> >>> tell us IN THAT SEP thread the story of the dolls of jatropha where did >>> you hear it or read it and how di it effect you oe yours >>> >>> love it >>> >>> Usha di >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:23 AM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Beautiful, Didi, yes, these are the wonders of nature children love. >>>> The other day I learned about little dolls of *Jatropha gossypifolia*. >>>> >>>> And there is KEY based on hilum of *Cardiospermum* - >>>> {i} large heart shaped hilum = *halicacabum* >>>> (ii) small orbicular hilum = *canescens* >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> yes, Surajit >>>>> >>>>> as we were growing up thats what fascinated us.. >>>>> because my dad said it was called cardiospermum >>>>> >>>>> we were full of curiosity at that information... >>>>> >>>>> its name and a heart on the seed.... >>>>> >>>>> stuff that fills a child's head... >>>>> dreams of becoming a botanist, naturalist, scientist >>>>> >>>>> they start very young >>>>> all it needs is a seed >>>>> a flower >>>>> a fleeting butterfly >>>>> or a dead one with iridescent wings >>>>> a pebble >>>>> river with dolphin in water that flows upstream.. >>>>> anything >>>>> if the adults can tell short nice stories >>>>> >>>>> children are easy to entertain and enrich. >>>>> >>>>> usha di >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:04 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Didi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you mean heart shaped hilum on the seeds? I have learnt that >>>>>> earlier from Nidhan Sir. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> SUrajit >>>>>>> imeant when the fruits are ripe look >>>>>>> collect and photograph >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> they are psectacular >>>>>>> >>>>>>> little kids just love em >>>>>>> >>>>>>> usha d >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:19 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Didi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is common wild vine in Hooghly. I have an earlier post >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/23nD7A1sq3A/RWCJfCudi-IJ>, >>>>>>>> when I thought it to be a *Physalis* species! In fact one of my >>>>>>>> botanist friend suggested that! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:16 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's right, SUrajit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> you agree then that flowers of c halicacabum is much smaller than >>>>>>>>> the balloon >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and now you have your own pic and specimen >>>>>>>>> did you collect some of the balloons? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> is it growing wild or some one planted these in Hooghly >>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:39 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Didi, >>>>>>>>>> Flowers of *C. helicacabum* are about 5 mm across and fruits are >>>>>>>>>> about 3 cm across. I have recorded one today. >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So Surajit, Vijaya and Prabhu KUmar all agree to the diagnosis >>>>>>>>>>> of Cardiospermum canescens. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I was uncomfortable with Cardiaspermum halicacabum >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Vijayasankar < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is *Cardiospermum corindum* (= *C. canescens*). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ref. TPL >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2700762> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>>>>>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Prabhu kumar Km < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be *Cardiospermum canescens, *a pantropical >>>>>>>>>>>>> species normally seen in dry deciduous forest >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:40 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is very interesting to note that KEW herbarium marked as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> type species of *C. corindum* L. is very similar to what I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> see here - *C. helicacabum* L., a very common herb (and we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have only this one here, in Hooghly) - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000074511 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000037467 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compared to above is a herbarium of *C. helicacabum* var. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *microcarpum* Miq. - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000037458 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flowers of *C. helicacabum* are very small as per Hooker, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haines, Prain, compared with the photographs attached here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wallich herbarium of *C. canescens* can be viewed at KEW - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000701890 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this species is *C. canescens*, where leaves are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mostly) not acuminate tipped. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:59 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first... how big are these flowers...??? it seems the flower >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the fuit are the same size see the last pic above .... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secondly... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have had lively and scientific discussion on two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cardiospermum sp in india >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several threads exist... foi has had problems dont if they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were corrected >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but look at our threads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 this was very informative and collegial... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix/cardiospermum/indiantreepix/l64pEel31ZI/m4_ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16M8S1xwJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread started by dinesh and biswajit and gurmuth sending in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very useful data >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2: and key pdf in this thread:https://groups.google. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/cardiospermum/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix/l64pEel31ZI/m4_16M8S1xwJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so tell me what is this sp in this thread based on the key >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the above thread >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cardiospermum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/sapindaceae/cardiospermum> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> papers/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It can be Cardiospermum corindum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/sapindaceae/cardiospermum/cardiospermum-corindum> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is *Cardiospermum corindum-* from Santhan ji. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cardiospermum microcarpum. 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