Surajit ji, thanks very much ... by now, I have lost my familiarity with *coarctatum* & *multiflorum*; I will have to slowly build it up in due course by meeting them in future.
About the point where you are suggesting one of my plants as *multiflorum*, requesting you to look at other views of the same plant <https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Jasminum+coarctatum&d=taken-20140221-20140223&ct=0&mt=all&w=91314344%40N00&adv=1> and express your views with confidence. Will then gladly correct my notes at flickr. Regards. Dinesh On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:50 PM, surajit koley <[email protected] > wrote: > Yes, Dinesh Ji, I agree, I have read about white bracts in FBI, of > *coarctatum* and *rottlerianum*. FBI says "prominent white" in both. I > couldn't find, in the net, the paper, 'Taxonomic notes on two...', Santhosh > Ji mentioned in the thread - > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/w71Qu08WXV8/kK1z788DNQwJ. > > However, Wight recorded, in his Ic Pl > <http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=130341&height=950>, > bracts of *J. rottlerianum* are with "pale whitish hue". FBI has a var. > of *rottlerianum*, var. *thwaitesii* from 'Nilgherries' where bracts are > "whitish". > > I can be wrong while trying to guess and express my thoughts about the two > species, *coarctatum* complex, and *mutiflorum*, my points are - > > - in illustration of Burm. f. of *J. multiflorum* > > <http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=167716&height=750> > no > bract can be seen > - FoC informs bracts in *multiflorum* are leafy, basal ovate, upper > linear (please also see note in FBI) > - if you see the corolla tubes in your photographs you will notice > tube is rather extended, inflated in the upper part, just bellow the > spreading lobes, which I think are missing in *multiflorum* uploads, > both in cultivated form and in wild form > - I think in *multiflorum* corolla tube evenly dilated from base to > lobes > - if you permit me I think your > https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/12909870533/sizes/l series > is *multiflorum* > > Thank you > Regards > surajit > > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks Surajit ji for dissection of the various descriptions ! >> >> Just for information, a descriptive name given in Tamil lexicon >> <http://dsalsrv02.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.1:1:6189.tamillex> >> [Madras], University of Madras for *J. rottlerianum* ... synonym of *J. >> coarctatum* var *coarctatum*. is *white-bracted jasmine* ! Not sure >> whether the bracts of *J. coarctatum *are indeed white-coloured; it >> could also imply the bracts are brighter OR lighter tone than that of other >> *Jasminum* species. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 8:56 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dinesh Ji, >>> >>> I think the confusion lies in the description of bracts. Even Flora >>> Indica recorded bracts are few, lanceolate in *J. pubescens*. >>> Surprisingly FI doesn't give description of bracts of *J. coarctatum*, >>> only informs. "amply bracted." >>> >>> Sir Prain also recorded that bracts, in *J. pubescens*, often absent, >>> if present ovate-lanceolate. >>> >>> Only Haines, in his BoBO, described "bracts same shape as leaves". >>> >>> Perhaps Rheede's illustration may also created confusion which was >>> addressed in FBI. You might have already read the FBI and other literature. >>> Yet I attach here the FBI and BoBO entry, for further examination. >>> >>> Thank you very much. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I went through all the posts in the group's database. Those posted from >>>> the north India as *J. multiflorum* are definitely different from what >>>> I have posted. The posted plant agrees very well with *J. coarctatum. * >>>> >>>> I also found another post from south (Anurag's ANFEB29 >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/E2v-vQtyIIQ/q1IjXKwogUQJ>) >>>> which was thought to be *J. multiflorum* - but you have commented as *J. >>>> coarctatum.* >>>> >>>> Many many thanks Surajit ji for validating this ID. Will correct my >>>> notes at flickr soon. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:41 AM, surajitkoley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dinesh Ji, >>>>> >>>>> It looks different to what I have, identified by Santhosh Sir, twice. >>>>> I think your flickr uploads of *J. multiflorum* and *J. coarctatum* got >>>>> mixed up. >>>>> Please correct me if I am wrong. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, 2 March 2015 19:44:28 UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Mollem National Park] >>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F16693248625&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdU1yr-dhDNWNlrHzVrIWzDkG3nBQ>Mollem >>>>>> National Park ... Goa >>>>>> *Date*: 23 APR 2011 ... *Altitude*: about 200 m asl >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *Jasminum multiflorum* (Burm.f.) Andrews ... (family: Oleaceae)[image: >>>>>> Jasminum multiflorum (Burm.f.) Andrews] >>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5661090073&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeaWMkeNYntYTRPsYw8KmxxrPGyww> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Kunda (Sanskrit: कुन्द)] >>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5661092479&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfhmc0KlqYQ4SQE2OoH2HCBWdJupQ> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Kunda (Hindi: कुंद)] >>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5661095327&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzebVeQvFjlQPxNRH8Lu8SDawIIO-A> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. 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