Thank you Didi for your view. To me those two are different as per our group view and as per lit. as latest as 2004 <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=cXD2eUj3dzcC&pg=PA205&dq=Gardenia+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2VnsU__fIIK78gX5x4KYCg&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=Gardenia%20%2B%20india&f=false> . In short, calyx of each species we have discussed so far in this thread is different and distinct and can easily be recognizable.
Thank you Regards On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ushadi Micromini < [email protected]> wrote: > *"Gardenia gummifera*, *G. resinifera* are two different taxa." > > > fine > > but they are both देकामाली Dekamali in our languages and treated as such > one flower is usually scented , other not, and > Short of GC- mass spec there is no real way to tell the dikamali apart no > matter what old books say > usha di > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:55 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Didi, my guess is based on calyx of this species. >> *Gardenia gummifera*, *G. resinifera* are two different taxa. >> Flowers of *G. resinifera* are fragrant. >> Flowers of *G. gummifera* can be fragrant if FBI, Roxburgh and TPL are >> correct about *G. arborea* Roxb. >> Flowers of *G. jasminoides* are fragrant. >> >> Thank you >> Regards >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> well... >>> *Surajit and SHrikanta* >>> interesting thoughts >>> >>> *ALka *help us >>> can you get to that plant again? >>> if you can >>> see if its scented... >>> *gardenia gummifera is NOT scented..* >>> its an important medicinal gardenia ... >>> >>> its fruits develop often in burma china indenesia etc >>> and dr dash had shown one case i think from orissa. >>> >>> *Surajit.*.. yes ultimately its all cultivars/ hybrids of the original >>> gardenia... >>> short of DNA analysis of the entire clan ... its not going to be >>> resolved... >>> single gardenias and double gardenias are all scented more or less >>> >>> usha di >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:54 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> btw, everybody has his/her own view - >>>> http://www.natureloveyou.sg/Kailarsenia%20lineata/Main.html >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:52 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> May also be a cultivar of *Gardenia jasminoides* J. Ellis >>>>> <http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/29152404#page/25/mode/1up>. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:18 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>> Gardenia sp. Rubiaceae >>>>>> smita >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ................ >>>>>> i have not seen one in india >>>>>> I know this as Vietnamese* snowflake gardenia:* >>>>>> >>>>>> Gardenia vietnamensis <http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/125417/> >>>>>> see it a dave's gaden >>>>>> even there very few (dave only has one nursery listed ) places sell >>>>>> them >>>>>> so do you think you can perhaps find out from the gardeners where do >>>>>> they buy their nursery stocks >>>>>> i would like to buy one ............................. >>>>>> Ushadi >>>>>> >>>>>> Although Dave's Garden has it as G. vietnamensis >>>>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/125417/>, Toptropicals says, >>>>>> taxonomically >>>>>> it is not a valid species and it is a horticultural variety of >>>>>> Kailarsenia >>>>>> vietnamensis >>>>>> <https://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?uid=Gardenia_Vietnamensis> >>>>>> . >>>>>> However, both these names do not feature in the Plant List. >>>>>> Is this some hybrid? >>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>> Alka Khare >>>>>> >>>>>> Gardenia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/gardenia> >>>>>> species in eFloraofindia (with details/ *keys *from published >>>>>> papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where >>>>>> ever available) >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Alka Khare <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: 15 April 2015 at 10:40 >>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:221117] Thane, Mar 2015 :: Requesting ID of >>>>>> this ornamental :: ARKAPR-01/01 >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello friends >>>>>> >>>>>> Requesting to please ID this ornamental captured at a garden in Thane >>>>>> in Mar 2015. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>> Alka Khare >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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