Thank you everyone for this give and take of knowledge. Hopefully I should be visiting this garden in the coming days... Will report post my visit.
Thanks and regards Alka Khare On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 6:18:05 PM UTC+5:30, surajitkoley wrote: > > Thank you Didi for your view. To me those two are different as per our > group view and as per lit. as latest as 2004 > <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=cXD2eUj3dzcC&pg=PA205&dq=Gardenia+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2VnsU__fIIK78gX5x4KYCg&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=Gardenia%20%2B%20india&f=false> > . > In short, calyx of each species we have discussed so far in this thread is > different and distinct and can easily be recognizable. > > Thank you > Regards > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ushadi Micromini <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> *"Gardenia gummifera*, *G. resinifera* are two different taxa." >> >> >> fine >> >> but they are both देकामाली Dekamali in our languages and treated as such >> one flower is usually scented , other not, and >> Short of GC- mass spec there is no real way to tell the dikamali apart no >> matter what old books say >> usha di >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:55 PM, surajit koley <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Didi, my guess is based on calyx of this species. >>> *Gardenia gummifera*, *G. resinifera* are two different taxa. >>> Flowers of *G. resinifera* are fragrant. >>> Flowers of *G. gummifera* can be fragrant if FBI, Roxburgh and TPL are >>> correct about *G. arborea* Roxb. >>> Flowers of *G. jasminoides* are fragrant. >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Ushadi Micromini <[email protected] >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> well... >>>> *Surajit and SHrikanta* >>>> interesting thoughts >>>> >>>> *ALka *help us >>>> can you get to that plant again? >>>> if you can >>>> see if its scented... >>>> *gardenia gummifera is NOT scented..* >>>> its an important medicinal gardenia ... >>>> >>>> its fruits develop often in burma china indenesia etc >>>> and dr dash had shown one case i think from orissa. >>>> >>>> *Surajit.*.. yes ultimately its all cultivars/ hybrids of the original >>>> gardenia... >>>> short of DNA analysis of the entire clan ... its not going to be >>>> resolved... >>>> single gardenias and double gardenias are all scented more or less >>>> >>>> usha di >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:54 PM, surajit koley <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> btw, everybody has his/her own view - >>>>> http://www.natureloveyou.sg/Kailarsenia%20lineata/Main.html >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:52 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> May also be a cultivar of *Gardenia jasminoides* J. Ellis >>>>>> <http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/29152404#page/25/mode/1up>. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:18 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected] >>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>> Gardenia sp. Rubiaceae >>>>>>> smita >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ................ >>>>>>> i have not seen one in india >>>>>>> I know this as Vietnamese* snowflake gardenia:* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gardenia vietnamensis <http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/125417/> >>>>>>> see it a dave's gaden >>>>>>> even there very few (dave only has one nursery listed ) places sell >>>>>>> them >>>>>>> so do you think you can perhaps find out from the gardeners where do >>>>>>> they buy their nursery stocks >>>>>>> i would like to buy one ............................. >>>>>>> Ushadi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Although Dave's Garden has it as G. vietnamensis >>>>>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/125417/>, Toptropicals says, >>>>>>> taxonomically >>>>>>> it is not a valid species and it is a horticultural variety of >>>>>>> Kailarsenia >>>>>>> vietnamensis >>>>>>> <https://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?uid=Gardenia_Vietnamensis> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> However, both these names do not feature in the Plant List. >>>>>>> Is this some hybrid? >>>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>>> Alka Khare >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gardenia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/gardenia> >>>>>>> species in eFloraofindia (with details/ *keys *from published >>>>>>> papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where >>>>>>> ever available) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Alka Khare <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>>>>>> Date: 15 April 2015 at 10:40 >>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:221117] Thane, Mar 2015 :: Requesting ID of >>>>>>> this ornamental :: ARKAPR-01/01 >>>>>>> To: [email protected] <javascript:> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello friends >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Requesting to please ID this ornamental captured at a garden in >>>>>>> Thane in Mar 2015. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>> Alka Khare >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>> <javascript:>. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>> Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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