Thanks, Vijayasankar ji, for your views. We had elaborate discussions in these matters. What you suggested is no doubt is a very good scheme of things. But nobody seems to be taking the lead in this matter.
What we have at efi sight is quite similar but in a slightly different format which I find doable within my limited time & resources. I prefer to move in smaller steps which are doable (though may be slightly inferior) & for which we can enlist the support of our members. On 26 October 2015 at 22:50, Vijayasankar Raman <[email protected]> wrote: > Garg ji and all, > > We have tremendous data on Indian flora, embedded in the form of numerous > discussion threads on eFI forum. We need to consolidate these valuable > data, simplify it, update and make available to the public in an > user-friendly form. In order to do this effectively, we need to have a > standard "design" for species, genera and family pages. So, I feel that we > should not hurry in doing the present activity before having a proper plan. > This is crucial because every action has to be replicated to thousands of > pages and we cannot 'undo' or 'redo' changes (in structure/design) so > easily. We need to discuss and decide on how we want to go about. It should > be based on a consensus from all moderators, experts in various fields and > we can also get opinion from experts outside of eFI, if necessary. > > As part of this idea, I proposed a design for efloraofindia as early as > 2011. Please search email subject "Design of efloraindia" dated 11/27/11 > (addressed to then moderators). I also started the idea of 'inserting > pictures' by links to original posts in the webpages, with inspiration and > help from Dinesh Ji, and prepared photo plate for Menispermaceae > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/menispermaceae>, > as a model. I also proposed a format for text "Canscora > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/g/gentianaceae/canscora>", > which several moderators have agreed upon to follow this as a model with > regard to the content structure. I strongly suggest to have a simple, > updated content, without conflicting (taxonomically) or confusing > information from other online sources. Since the forum is searchable, there > is no need to duplicate the content in eFI webpages, especially without a > uniform structure. I have been insisting this since beginning and we have > discussed this several times among the moderators. > > By saying this, I don't mean/intend to curb the enthusiasm or slow down > the activity. > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> 'Also a genera under the family may be assigned to one of the willing >> members. >> Each of the members will insert pictures of that genera ' >> >> This may be doable if the genera is not big.... >> >> = >> >> 'along with pointing out any misidentifications etc. for further review.' >> >> now this at least me wont be comfortable with >> nt being a bortanist by training >> >> >> usha di >> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:12 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Also a genera under the family may be assigned to one of the willing >>> members. >>> Each of the members will insert pictures of that genera along with >>> pointing out any misidentifications etc. for further review. >>> >>> On 26 October 2015 at 12:39, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Can we convert these family fortnights for inserting images of that >>>> particular family in efi site (instead of posting on efi e-group) by >>>> individual members? Members can have there count & be declared Stars & >>>> Runner ups accordingly. >>>> However we can allow posting of unidentified pictures & new species >>>> (not already available on efi site) of that family. >>>> We can also allow such posting of images which has already not been >>>> posted in our efi group. >>>> >>>> On 26 October 2015 at 09:53, Ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> family weeks take up a good chunk of time each day >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 8:14 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Sushant ji. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 25 October 2015 at 22:56, Sushant More <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes with full support will spend some time every day to improve our >>>>>>> site :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 9:42 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>> Efi site will be completing 5 years on 4.11.15. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now the question is how to move ahead in the present circumstances >>>>>>>> ? Earlier we were handicapped in our website due to non-insertion of >>>>>>>> images. But things have recently dramatically changed as we are able to >>>>>>>> insert images in our website pages. And it has been working fine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As everybody knows, pictures are our biggest assets as far as >>>>>>>> efloraofindia e-group & site is concerned as we have more than 2 >>>>>>>> lakh images. If we put 3 to 5 images on every page, we can have >>>>>>>> around 50,000 pictures being depicted on our website pages. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have plenty of work going on like new postings, monthly >>>>>>>> fortnights, identification of unidentified posts, resurfacing of posts, >>>>>>>> putting every post at efi site, making of genera pages (where >>>>>>>> still lot of work has to be done as I have missed earlier deadline of >>>>>>>> 31.12.14 & now it seems it will require many more years), adding >>>>>>>> information from CC by sources at our website along with its proper >>>>>>>> formatting etc. along with insertion of images. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A few members have come forward for insertion of images which will >>>>>>>> truly show our potential. However, this appears to be quite slow. I am >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> able to take up this activity due to engagement in so many other >>>>>>>> activities >>>>>>>> for which no body has come forward in a substantial way. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Summing up, there is a substantial interest from everybody in efi >>>>>>>> e-group activities, but not much as far as efi site (which has now >>>>>>>> become our biggest asset) is concerned even though it will be >>>>>>>> completing >>>>>>>> five years very shortly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My question is can we divert some of our resources from efi group >>>>>>>> work to efi site work. Will it be the right direction ? Are >>>>>>>> members willing here to join me in efi site work including >>>>>>>> insertion of images (at least their own images, to start with). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Everybody's views & feedback is requested. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>> Plants >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for >>>>>>>> free >>>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>> in the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) >>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>> species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner >>>>>>>> of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>>>> of India'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> *Sushant More* >>>>>>> *Student * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>> >>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>> the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or >>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>> species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner >>>>>> of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>> of India'. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Usha di >>>>> =========== >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner of >>>> Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or >>> Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner of >>> Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>> India'. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Vijayasankar > > ------------------------------------------ > Vijayasankar Raman > Research Scientist > National Center for Natural Products Research > University of Mississippi, USA > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. 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