Dear All I think Vijaya has a great idea i was looking at the steps involved in creating such website.. logistics need is enormous
either one needs an army of internet and botany savvy students//post docs // volunteers// working a long hours each day at the computer... plus pressure on educated knowledgeable botanists // scientists and taxonomists equally great i am thinking of this website http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/index.php funded heavily and has a big staff only a few whose pictures are shown in thier who we are or some such pages.. look at it...carefully and you'll see its good and yet it needs many many refinements and they dont have the enormous database of cases as we do... looks simple but even they have a dedicated salaried staff and eminent scientists on board who do nothing but that I think we have a different platform and different agenda to start with and a different database of cases that span the whole country and many other countries of the world where our members travel to . .we have chance to show and see the variation in the same species by the multiple cases in each species. What Vijaya has suggested is ideal.. the world of botany would be richer by thousands of folds if one could achieve what vijaya, you and us have dreamt of.. but I think the "baby step" of inserting pictures is doable at this point although this "baby" step is an enormous task in number of dedicated hours and getting used to to doing it... On my part I will try to do a few cases a day as time permits and my internet service provider goes on... usha di On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:20 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Singh ji, > What is now needed is to just insert photos at the beginning of the page. > Pl. see Guidelines- Members are now allowed to insert pictures in efi > site pages > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/dx_ihgI9y1M> > > On 28 October 2015 at 08:18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, Singh ji. >> We already have that made automatically. >> Pl. see >> # Species- Seed plants (families) >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species> >> A---L (families & genera) >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l> >> M---Z (families & genera) >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z> >> Acanthaceae >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae> >> etc. >> (other families in a similar way) >> >> On 27 October 2015 at 20:01, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It is great feeling to know that we have huge collection of images. We >>> also have numerous species with proper name citations with synonyms and >>> descriptions at least in my uploads. To make it popular we should have a >>> scrolling down page somewhat similar to Flowers of India with provision of >>> arranging names in alphabetic order as well as provision to sort it >>> familywise. If some one is able to develop template for this, we can add >>> species to this, starting from our December episode of Fabaceae >>> (Caesalpinioideae). >>> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:49 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Vijayasankar ji, for your views. >>>> We had elaborate discussions in these matters. >>>> What you suggested is no doubt is a very good scheme of things. >>>> But nobody seems to be taking the lead in this matter. >>>> >>>> What we have at efi sight is quite similar but in a slightly different >>>> format which I find doable within my limited time & resources. >>>> I prefer to move in smaller steps which are doable (though may be >>>> slightly inferior) & for which we can enlist the support of our members. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26 October 2015 at 22:50, Vijayasankar Raman < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Garg ji and all, >>>>> >>>>> We have tremendous data on Indian flora, embedded in the form of >>>>> numerous discussion threads on eFI forum. We need to consolidate these >>>>> valuable data, simplify it, update and make available to the public in an >>>>> user-friendly form. In order to do this effectively, we need to have a >>>>> standard "design" for species, genera and family pages. So, I feel that we >>>>> should not hurry in doing the present activity before having a proper >>>>> plan. >>>>> This is crucial because every action has to be replicated to thousands of >>>>> pages and we cannot 'undo' or 'redo' changes (in structure/design) so >>>>> easily. We need to discuss and decide on how we want to go about. It >>>>> should >>>>> be based on a consensus from all moderators, experts in various fields and >>>>> we can also get opinion from experts outside of eFI, if necessary. >>>>> >>>>> As part of this idea, I proposed a design for efloraofindia as early >>>>> as 2011. Please search email subject "Design of efloraindia" dated >>>>> 11/27/11 >>>>> (addressed to then moderators). I also started the idea of 'inserting >>>>> pictures' by links to original posts in the webpages, with inspiration and >>>>> help from Dinesh Ji, and prepared photo plate for Menispermaceae >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/menispermaceae>, >>>>> as a model. I also proposed a format for text "Canscora >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/g/gentianaceae/canscora>", >>>>> which several moderators have agreed upon to follow this as a model with >>>>> regard to the content structure. I strongly suggest to have a simple, >>>>> updated content, without conflicting (taxonomically) or confusing >>>>> information from other online sources. Since the forum is searchable, >>>>> there >>>>> is no need to duplicate the content in eFI webpages, especially without a >>>>> uniform structure. I have been insisting this since beginning and we have >>>>> discussed this several times among the moderators. >>>>> >>>>> By saying this, I don't mean/intend to curb the enthusiasm or slow >>>>> down the activity. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 'Also a genera under the family may be assigned to one of the willing >>>>>> members. >>>>>> Each of the members will insert pictures of that genera ' >>>>>> >>>>>> This may be doable if the genera is not big.... >>>>>> >>>>>> = >>>>>> >>>>>> 'along with pointing out any misidentifications etc. for further >>>>>> review.' >>>>>> >>>>>> now this at least me wont be comfortable with >>>>>> nt being a bortanist by training >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:12 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Also a genera under the family may be assigned to one of the willing >>>>>>> members. >>>>>>> Each of the members will insert pictures of that genera along with >>>>>>> pointing out any misidentifications etc. for further review. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 26 October 2015 at 12:39, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can we convert these family fortnights for inserting images of that >>>>>>>> particular family in efi site (instead of posting on efi e-group) by >>>>>>>> individual members? Members can have there count & be declared Stars & >>>>>>>> Runner ups accordingly. >>>>>>>> However we can allow posting of unidentified pictures & new species >>>>>>>> (not already available on efi site) of that family. >>>>>>>> We can also allow such posting of images which has already not been >>>>>>>> posted in our efi group. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 26 October 2015 at 09:53, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> family weeks take up a good chunk of time each day >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 8:14 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Sushant ji. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 25 October 2015 at 22:56, Sushant More < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes with full support will spend some time every day to improve >>>>>>>>>>> our site :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 9:42 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>>>>>> Efi site will be completing 5 years on 4.11.15. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now the question is how to move ahead in the present >>>>>>>>>>>> circumstances ? Earlier we were handicapped in our website due to >>>>>>>>>>>> non-insertion of images. But things have recently dramatically >>>>>>>>>>>> changed as >>>>>>>>>>>> we are able to insert images in our website pages. And it has been >>>>>>>>>>>> working >>>>>>>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As everybody knows, pictures are our biggest assets as far as >>>>>>>>>>>> efloraofindia e-group & site is concerned as we have more than >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 lakh images. If we put 3 to 5 images on every page, we can >>>>>>>>>>>> have around 50,000 pictures being depicted on our website pages. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We have plenty of work going on like new postings, monthly >>>>>>>>>>>> fortnights, identification of unidentified posts, resurfacing of >>>>>>>>>>>> posts, >>>>>>>>>>>> putting every post at efi site, making of genera pages (where >>>>>>>>>>>> still lot of work has to be done as I have missed earlier deadline >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> 31.12.14 & now it seems it will require many more years), adding >>>>>>>>>>>> information from CC by sources at our website along with its proper >>>>>>>>>>>> formatting etc. along with insertion of images. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A few members have come forward for insertion of images which >>>>>>>>>>>> will truly show our potential. However, this appears to be quite >>>>>>>>>>>> slow. I am >>>>>>>>>>>> not able to take up this activity due to engagement in so many >>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>> activities for which no body has come forward in a substantial way. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Summing up, there is a substantial interest from everybody in >>>>>>>>>>>> efi e-group activities, but not much as far as efi site (which >>>>>>>>>>>> has now become our biggest asset) is concerned even though it will >>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> completing five years very shortly. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My question is can we divert some of our resources from efi >>>>>>>>>>>> group work to efi site work. Will it be the right direction ? >>>>>>>>>>>> Are members willing here to join me in efi site work including >>>>>>>>>>>> insertion of images (at least their own images, to start with). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Everybody's views & feedback is requested. >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also >>>>>>>>>>>> use them >>>>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google >>>>>>>>>>>> e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>>>>>>>>>> (largest >>>>>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on >>>>>>>>>>>> 18.6.15) or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). >>>>>>>>>>>> Winner >>>>>>>>>>>> of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> *Sushant More* >>>>>>>>>>> *Student * >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use >>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) >>>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). >>>>>>>>>> Winner >>>>>>>>>> of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>> Plants >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for >>>>>>>> free >>>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>> in the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) >>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>> species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner >>>>>>>> of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>>>> of India'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for >>>>>>> free >>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>>> the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or >>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>> species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner >>>>>>> of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>>> of India'. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Usha di >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Vijayasankar >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>> Research Scientist >>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>> University of Mississippi, USA >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner of >>>> Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or >> Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner of >> Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner of > Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > -- Usha di =========== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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