NICOLAS

A4 is the paper size used in india
my question was ,more specific brand model etc
i was expecting a detailed information about your scanner and process for
preserving the 3d structure while scanning

if cant shre the details please say so
no problem

but tell me

usha di

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Nico <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Ushadi,
> Thank you for your comments.
> We use a high resolution A4 flatbed scanner to do the digitalization work.
> About your question about the scientific papers of Pitchandikulam
> organization, I am not in charge of the Pitchandikulam Forest "old"
> website...
> I am a French botanist and with my wife Irène (graphic developer and web
> designer) we settled in Tamil Nadu 1.5 year ago. We are only in charge of
> this virtual herbarium which we launched last year...
> Regards,
> Nicolas
>
>
> Le 31/10/2015 09:45, Ushadi Micromini a écrit :
>
> Nicolas
> i have one more  question
>
> what are you using for the scanning and how are you achieving  the 3D
> effect
> how do you preserve the 3 D integrity of specimen esp flowers and fruits
> without    squashing them flat while scanning
>
> if you will tell me /us with good details it would help me/us tremendously.
>
> thank you for your help.
>
> usha di
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Ushadi Micromini <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Nicolas:
>>
>> What i saw inspires me.I think its wonderful effort and may be very
>> useful for the future for it would show  the real colors  of the specimen.
>>
>> I see you have included a scale but that must also have the millimeters
>> showing not just white and black blocks.  I am sure the american suppliers
>> of herbarium maintenance supplies can/must have them.
>>
>> I am glad you have the color chart in the each of the pictures i perused.
>>
>>
>> But I have the following  concerns and comments that must be addressed if
>> this is  to be of use.. real use...
>>
>> 1: the specimen scanned must also be preserved in the true herbarium
>> style and procedure including whatever newer techniques botanists employ to
>> make their herbarium.   For posterity, like any other classical herbaria
>> around the world and in Botanical survey of India.
>>
>> 2: those herbarium sheets should be  also digitized where the dates log
>> numbers etc are clearly showing so that they can be easily traced and
>> accessed later by the researchers, yourselves and outside world easily.
>> And they must be stored separately .
>>
>> ============
>> When I googled for your organization i found this page :
>> http://www.pitchandikulamforest.org/cms/content/view/99/227/
>>
>> which says your organization has publications, but the links provided
>> only takes me to the two journals' home pages,,,,, how is one  to determine
>> which are your papers... let alone access them???
>>
>> i suggest you make a list like a bibliography that shows up in any
>> scientists' resume and list it there in that page i just mentioned  and
>> send us ... all members  of efloraindia/indiatreepix have been sending in
>> their list of publication with full citation or bibliography.  That will
>> really be nice.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> I also am encouraged by this endeavor:
>> http://www.pitchandikulamforest.org/cms/content/view/95/218/
>>
>> my question...
>> is your work (with this herbarium project) related to this work... since
>> 1973 ???
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> usha di
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Nicolas Lagarrigue <
>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Sir,
>>> Sorry but I had not and I will never criticize the work did and done
>>> today in the herbaria. Herbarium specimens are for me the jewels of the
>>> botany.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Nicolas
>>>
>>> [email protected]
>>> (+91) 76 39 226 236
>>> Pitchandikulam Forest
>>> Auroville
>>> 605101 Tamil Nadu
>>> India
>>> Le 29 oct. 2015 7:58 PM, "Tapas Chakrabarty" < <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>> Thank you very much for this great endeavour using latest techniques
>>>> which will certainly be helpful for the purpose of documentation and
>>>> identification.
>>>> However, I do not agree with the following comments:
>>>> "Unlike many other virtual herbaria, which use pictures of their
>>>> existing collections, samples of which can be decades old, often
>>>> discoloured and degraded....."
>>>>
>>>> Yes, samples may not  only be decades old, but may also be centuries
>>>> old and the major herbaria of the World are conserving these specimens with
>>>> meticulous care as they form the base of angiosperm taxonomy.  A herbarium
>>>> specimens is bound to be degraded and discoloured with age and that is why
>>>> a professional collector notes down various field data including habit and
>>>> habitat and features such as colour of  various parts in fresh condition
>>>> which are likely to be lost on return from field. The same is then noted
>>>> down on the herbarium label.  With limited available techniques, the
>>>> taxonomists of the past did wonders.
>>>>  There is nothing wrong in digitizing these precious collections and
>>>> presenting virtual herbaria.
>>>> Nothing more for the present.
>>>> Wish you all success.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:47 PM, J.M. Garg < <[email protected]>
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Nicolas ji.
>>>>> Certainly a appreciable beginning.
>>>>> Hope you go along way to enchant us.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 15:23, Nicolas Lagarrigue <
>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear members of eflora of India group,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We would like to share with you our new virtual herbarium, an online
>>>>>> catalogue of plants from our region, including local, vulnerable and
>>>>>> sometimes endangered species from the native evergreen forests of the
>>>>>> Coromandel Coast of Tamil Nadu, as well as other widespread species of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Indian subcontinent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unlike many other virtual herbaria, which use pictures of their
>>>>>> existing collections, samples of which can be decades old, often
>>>>>> discoloured and degraded, Pitchandikulam Forest Virtual Herbarium uses
>>>>>> fresh specimens, briefly flattened and then scanned immediately in high
>>>>>> definition, in order to conserve their natural colours and texture. This
>>>>>> creates exquisite, vivid images which allow us to fully appreciate the
>>>>>> intricate beauty of plants and to discover them more intimately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For each species, detailed botanical information is provided,
>>>>>> including nomenclature, description, phenology, reproduction and 
>>>>>> dispersal,
>>>>>> as well details of plant ecology, distribution, conservation status and
>>>>>> propagation and planting advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition to the detailed scientific data, it offers additional
>>>>>> ethnobotanical information (human uses of plants for food, crafts,
>>>>>> medicines or rituals…).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pitchandikulam Forest Virtual Herbarium is a work in progress. So far
>>>>>> 50 plant species are available to view and learn about, with new species
>>>>>> added continuously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are interested, we encourage you to join our mailing list to
>>>>>> get the latest updates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pitchandikulam Forest Virtual Herbarium can be found here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.pitchandikulam-herbarium.org>
>>>>>> www.pitchandikulam-herbarium.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy your visit and share it with all the plant lovers you know…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Irène and Nico
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.pitchandikulam-herbarium.org/img/mail_signature.jpg>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.pitchandikulam-herbarium.org/img/pitchandikulam_herbarium.jpg>
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