tsp great with advent of the digital cameras and iphones etc we look forward to your years and years observation from now on that you can record on the same tree populations?
quote: Tapas ji, My observation over the years is that the spines or the thorns vanish with maturity...! regards tspkumar end quote usha di On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 12:26 AM, tsp kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > Tapas ji, My observation over the years is that the spines or the thorns > vanish with maturity...! > regards > tspkumar > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Ushadi, >> So far as I understand, the basic difference between Senegalia and >> Vachellia is that in the former, there will be prickles scattered all over >> the branchlets while the stipules are modified into spines in the latter. >> Here, the spines that you mention in the link are the characters of >> Senegalia. Now coming back to the differences between S. catechu (formerly >> Acacia catechu) and S. polyacantha (formerly Acacia polyacantha), in my >> opinion, there is none but as per some sources, the main trunk should >> contain spines in case of polyacantha and this character of difference can >> be established and elucidated only through field observations on greater >> areas of distribution of the plants involved. >> Regards, >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 10:48 AM, tsp kumar <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ushaji,I will try to re-visit the next time I go there and get back to >>> you. >>> thanks and regards >>> tspkumar >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> look at thorn in the link i gave and gargji gave a while back (same >>>> page) >>>> the thorn is unmistakable >>>> not nubs >>>> real thorns >>>> >>>> >>>> so if you happen to be in the same part of the forest may be we get to >>>> see the thorns? >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> usha di >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 10:39 AM, tsp kumar <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Ushaji for the feed back.Unfortunately I do not have pictures >>>>> other than the ones that I have uploaded.By the way,Burr -like thorns are >>>>> visible in image no 2.Would this help...? >>>>> regards >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> interesting study by Tapasda >>>>>> >>>>>> in the first picture upon enlarging there is a thorn i think ... in >>>>>> the branch that's rising diagonally in the bottom of the picture and is >>>>>> ending with a couple of inflorescence a small red tipped thorn seems to >>>>>> be >>>>>> present >>>>>> *TSP do you have pictures of the thorns?* >>>>>> >>>>>> since Senegalia polycantha 's colloquial names include claw thorn. >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/senegalia/acacia-polyacantha> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am going through these images again and again and comparing them >>>>>>> with the existing literature and data available to me. Once again, I am >>>>>>> unable to distinguishing Acacia polyacantha with Acacia catechu. The >>>>>>> cracks and fissures on the stem are usual in the latter and therefore I >>>>>>> think it should be called Senegalia catechu, with S. polyacantha as its >>>>>>> synonym. >>>>>>> Tapas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yesterday I observed that this might be Senegalia catechu. After >>>>>>>> further search through literature, I find that the plants with armed >>>>>>>> stem >>>>>>>> may be regarded as a variant, or a distict species, on this character >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> the available name for this entity is Senegalia polycantha, which is, >>>>>>>> howerver, otherwise indistinguishable from S. catechu. This matter >>>>>>>> can be >>>>>>>> settled only by careful field studies of populations by some young and >>>>>>>> energetic person. >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Muthu Karthick <[email protected] >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Acacia chundra* of Mimosaceae? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 7:09 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> efi page on Senegalia polyacantha >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/senegalia/acacia-polyacantha> >>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> images >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>> From: tsp kumar <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Date: 12 December 2015 at 23:51 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:237149] ID-TSP-12DEC2015-1: Fabaceae >>>>>>>>>> specimen for ID >>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kindly identify this specimen belonging to Fabaceae. Could this >>>>>>>>>> be Senegalia polycantha...??? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ref: >>>>>>>>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=1916&cat=1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Habit:Armed tree >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Habitat:Dry deciduous forest >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sighting:Devarayanadurga,Tumkur,Karnataka,about 800 msl >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Date:29-06-2015 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> tspkumar >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Deputy Conservator of Forests >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Working Plan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chikmagalur >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ph:988057158 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *“We have not inherited this planet from our forefathers, we have >>>>>>>>>> borrowed it from our children”-An American proverb* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) >>>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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