Dear all, So the accepted name is Gentianopsis stricta and rest are synonyms.
Thank you Saroj Kasaju On 28 Sep 2016 17:10, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: > Further both Catalogue of Life > <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/c7071d5e46c1c06866655234d65d2913/synonym/470c8ebc2c424fb944fe4e2a6213ee5e> > The Plant List Ver.1.1 > <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2822459> now consider that > *Gentianopsis* *vvedenskyi* (Grossh.) Pissjauk. is a synonym > <http://www.theplantlist.org/1.1/about/#synonym> of *Gentianopsis* > *stricta* (Klotzsch) Ikonn. > <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2822459> > Pl. also see specimen as below from GBIF > <http://www.gbif.org/species/8252141>: > specimen 1 > <http://elmer.rbge.org.uk/bgbase/vherb/bgbasevherb.php?cfg=bgbase/vherb/zoom.cfg&filename=E00438246.zip&queryRow=1> > specimen 2 > <http://elmer.rbge.org.uk/bgbase/vherb/bgbasevherb.php?cfg=bgbase/vherb/zoom.cfg&filename=E00438412.zip&queryRow=1> > > I think all these confirm the Id. > > > On 26 September 2016 at 15:59, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Chadwell ji. >> After going through the images at http://www.plantarium.ru/page/ >> image/id/118614.html, >> I agree with your ID of *Gentianopsis vvdenskyi* >> >> On 24 September 2016 at 11:16, C CHADWELL <[email protected] >> om> wrote: >> >>> Oops... made a mistake in paragraph 6 - I meant that the former species >>> *Gentianopsis vvdenskyi* on the basis of narrower, more acuminate >>> leaves... >>> not *G.paludosa.* >>> >>> >>> Best Wishes, >>> >>> >>> Chris Chadwell >>> >>> >>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>> SLOUGH >>> SL3 8BE >>> UK >>> >>> http://www.shpa.org.uk/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>> *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, 24 September 2016, 4:20 >>> *Subject:* Fwd: Fwd: Gentianopsis paludosa (Munro ex J. D. Hooker) >>> >>> Thanks, Chadwell ji. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: *C CHADWELL* >>> Date: 23 September 2016 at 19:23 >>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Gentianopsis paludosa (Munro ex J. D. Hooker) >>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> *I am in agreement that this plant appears to be within what is now* >>> *called the Gentianopsis genus. There are 2 species recorded from >>> Ladakh.* >>> >>> The Gentian family (Gentianaceae) has undergone a lot of nomenclatural >>> and taxonomic changes >>> in recent decades and quite a number can be difficult to identify with >>> certainty. >>> >>> In my early days of exploring for plants in the Himalaya, my teams >>> collected pressed specimens, >>> which e.g. staff at Kew identified (e.g. a duplicate set of pressed >>> specimens was also deposited in >>> the herbarium of the University of Kashmir). Later on, Eona Aitken a >>> taxonomist specialising in >>> Gentianaceae helped with naming but she is no longer at Edinburgh - >>> always a pity when one losses >>> knowledgeable specialists. >>> >>> On my first expedition to Suru Valley, we collected at Kargil and >>> Panichar, specimens which were named >>> at that time as *Gentianella paludosa*. Stewart in his catalogue >>> called this *Gentiana stracheyi* with synonyms >>> *Gentiana detonsa* var. stracheyi and *Gentiana detonsa* var. *paludosa*. >>> *Nowadays it is known as Gentianopsis* >>> *paludosa*. My present understanding is that this is the commonest >>> species of this genus in Ladakh - mostly on >>> and close to irrigation channels of fields - though 'Flowers of the >>> Himalaya' also say it is found on open slopes and >>> alpine shrubberies (in other parts of the Himalaya). >>> >>> *But in Ladakh there is also Gentianopsis vvedenskyi *(syn. *Gentianella >>> vvedenskyi*, *Gentiana,stricta*). Stewart comments that >>> this has been much confused with what is now *Gentianopsis paludosa*. >>> >>> He separated the latter species having narrower, more acuminate leaves >>> with less winged calyces. The specimen we >>> collected had prominent fringed petals. >>> >>> My 1980 team also came across what is now *Gentianopsis vvdenenskyi* in >>> the Suru Valley (at Rangdum) - its sepals >>> had 5 dark stripes down each lobe but I do not know if this is >>> characteristic of all variants of this species? Comparing the >>> two, this example of the species appeared more delicate than the >>> examples of *G.paludosa*. >>> >>> *I am no expert on Gentianaceae. My initial thoughts are that >>> the plants photographed by Prashant at Turtuk in Ladakh do come* >>> *with Gentianopsis paludosa. As for the plants photographed at Khardung >>> Village by Saroj, I wonder if these might be* >>> *Gentianopsis vvedenskyi but am uncertain? They do not have the dark >>> stripes on the calyx lobes but do exhibit narrow* >>> *leaves and prominent fringed petals but do not know how diagnostic >>> these features are?* >>> >>> *Would be pleased if those with greater knowledge than me can comment.* >>> What shame I am not in a position to consult Eona. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Best Wishes, >>> >>> >>> Chris Chadwell >>> >>> >>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>> SLOUGH >>> SL3 8BE >>> UK >>> >>> http://www.shpa.org.uk/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>> *To:* efloraofindia <mailto:[email protected] >>> <[email protected]>> >>> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 September 2016, 13:40 >>> *Subject:* Fwd: Gentianopsis paludosa (Munro ex J. D. Hooker) >>> >>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>> Pl. also check with images at Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Fortnight: >>> Gentianaceae :: Gentiana detonsa var. stacheyi from Turtuk, Ladakh::PKA13 >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/JP9B9Rh50YU> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: *Saroj Kasaju* <[email protected]> >>> Date: 20 September 2016 at 17:11 >>> Subject: Gentianopsis paludosa (Munro ex J. D. Hooker) >>> To: efloraofindia <mailto:[email protected] >>> <[email protected]>>, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Dear Members, >>> >>> Sharing some pictures I guess is Gentianopsis paludosa (Munro ex J. D. >>> Hooker) shot at Kahrdung Village on 21 August 2014. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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