According to Flora of Chamba District by Harinder Singh and M. Sharma: Lower leaves cordate at base; Carpesium tracheliifolium
Leaves all sessile or sub sessile, heads sessile or sub sessile; C. abrotanoides Flora of China: Carpesium abrotanoides Linnaeus, Sp. Pl. 860. 1753. 天名精 tian ming jing Carpesium thunbergianum Siebold & Zuccarini. Perennial herbs. Stems 50–100 cm tall, stout, terete, leafy, pubescent apically, much branched. Lower cauline leaves thin, broadly elliptic to oblong, 20–28 × 8.5–15 cm, apex obtuse to acute, narrowed at base into a broadly winged petiole, margins irregularly mucronulate-dentate, glandular-dotted abaxially, shortly pubescent on both sides; upper leaves oblong, sessile, gradually smaller, acute. Heads many, 6–8 mm broad, sessile, spicately arranged, usually without bracts, deflexed in anthesis. Involucre campanulate-globose, bracts 3-seriate, outer ones shortest, ovate-acuminate, shortly pubescent, scarious-leathery at base, herbaceous toward apex, median and inner bracts oblong, rounded at apex. Florets 130–300; corolla of outer florets cylindric, 1.5–0.5 mm, of central florets 2.5 mm. Achenes ca. 3.5 mm, beak ca. 0.7 mm. Fl. Aug–Oct, fr. Oct–Dec. 2n = 40. Roadsides, grassy slopes, thickets, forest margins, streamsides; below 2800(–3400) m. Anhui, Fujian, Gansu, Guangdong, Guangxi, Guizhou, Hainan, Henan, Hubei, Hunan, Jiangsu, Jiangxi, Shaanxi, Sichuan, Taiwan, Xizang, Yunnan, Zhejiang [Bhutan, India, Japan, Korea, Myanmar, Nepal, Russia, Vietnam; SW Asia (Iran)]. Carpesium tracheliifolium Lessing, Linnaea 6: 233. 1831. 粗齿天名精 cu chi tian ming jing Carpesium cernuum Linnaeus var. tracheliifolium (Lessing) C. B. Clarke. Plant 30–50 cm; stems usually sparsely pubescent. Leaves ovate, 4–15 × 2–8 cm, usually acuminate to attenuate at base, subentire to coarsely serrate, sparsely pubescent on surfaces, with subsessile glands abaxially; lower ones broadly (narrow) petiolate; upper ones sessile or short petiolate. Capitula 1–8 in racemes or spikes at branch ends, suberect to pendulous, surrounded by leafy bracts 4.5–37 × 2–9 mm. Involucre 4- or 5-seriate; phyllaries mostly oblong, obtuse, scarious, to 3.5–5.2 mm; outer ones sometimes shorter or herbaceous above or ovate and rounded to acuminate at apex. Disc 2–10 mm in diam.; corollas ca. 2 mm, tube glabrous or hairy. Achenes 3 mm, narrowed above to glandular apex. Fl. Jul–Aug, fr. Sep–Oct. Valleys, forests; 2000–3500 m. Sichuan, Taiwan, Xizang, Yunnan [Nepal]. FOC does not show the distribution of C. tracheliifolium in India but Col Colett, Flora of Chamba both include it. Further, photographs here <http://www.plantphoto.cn/tu/581320> show C. tracheliifolium with cordate leaf bases and very different from my sample. Photos of C. abrotanoides <http://www.plantphoto.cn/tu/2444539> are closer. None of the the texts other than the Flora Simlensis mentions the strong odour. Going by the flowering time, habitat and leaf shapes, and till more evidence to the contrary I am putting my bets on C. abrotanoides. Please advise. Thanks. Ashwini > On 29 Sep 2016, at 15:28, C CHADWELL <[email protected]> wrote: > > OK > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > http://www.shpa.org.uk/ <http://www.shpa.org.uk/> > > > > > > > From: Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]> > To: C CHADWELL <[email protected]> > Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2016, 7:40 > Subject: Re: Carpesium abrotanoides ABSEP2016/50 > > Thank you Chris for taking the time to explain this in detail. I can confirm > that there was no strong odour from the plant I photographed and the flower > heads were small (about 12mm long and 4mm wide). If we go by Col Collett (I > do have a copy of his book and find it a very good resource), this will rule > out C. abrotanoides. I will do more research this evening and see if C. > trachelifolium is a better match. > > Regards, > Ashwini > > > > >> On 28 Sep 2016, at 04:16, C CHADWELL <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> This is a new species for me. >> >> Stewart lists this from N.Pakistan & Kashmir @ 600-2000m. >> >> Also C.cernuum - common & very variable similar range @ 1000-3000m >> >> and C.trachelifolium - this was listed in 'Flora of British India' @ 5-7000' >> but Stewart had only found this East of Kashmir. >> >> All three are in 'Flora Simlensis' (do you have a copy, I picked up one, >> re-printed by Bishen Singh Mahendra Pal Singh at a modest cost in Shimla >> itself I think - many years back). Whilst it is a decent work, with good >> content >> but has its limitations and some inaccuracies. >> >> There is a key between the species - C. cernuum apparently common in woods >> at Shimla (or >> was a century ago). >> >> C.abrotanoides - not common at Shimla, mainly valleys below Shimla. The >> flowers, which >> have a powerful odour, were used in Kashmir to dye silk. >> >> C.trachelifolium - valley below Shimla. >> >> First part of key 1/2-1 inch diam., solitary, nodding, which rules out >> C.cernuum. >> >> Then, heads not more than 1/4 inch diam - your images do not have a >> scale/ruler but they look >> small. Heads few, solitary or in small clusters at the end of long, >> axillary stalks, leaves broadly lanceolate - >> which fits your images - C.trachelifolium >> Alternative, numerous heads, axillary, nearly sessile or in axillary >> racemes, leaves narrowly lanceolate. >> C.abrotanoides. >> >> I am not convinced by this. Images available on the internet fit with your >> plant being C.abrotanoides. >> Unfortunately, there are no images of this species available at Kew >> herbarium but the one image they have >> of C.trachelifolium does not fit. >> >> So based upon what I can find out to-date, I think Collet in 'Flora >> Simlensis' is wrong. >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> >> Chris Chadwell >> >> >> 81 Parlaunt Road >> SLOUGH >> SL3 8BE >> UK >> >> http://www.shpa.org.uk/ <http://www.shpa.org.uk/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Cc: C CHADWELL <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Tuesday, 27 September 2016, 13:59 >> Subject: Carpesium abrotanoides ABSEP2016/50 >> >> Could this be Carpesium abrotanoides? Please validate. >> >> Carpesium abrotanoides >> Near Mcleodganj, HP >> 1800m approx. >> 27 September 2016 >> >> Thanks. >> Ashwini >> >> >> >> <_MG_6416_27Sep2016.jpg><_MG_6441_27Sep2016.jpg><_MG_6460_27Sep2016.jpg><_MG_6462_27Sep2016.jpg><_MG_6425_27Sep2016.jpg><_MG_6413_27Sep2016.jpg> >> >> >> <_MG_6416_27Sep2016.jpg><_MG_6441_27Sep2016.jpg><_MG_6460_27Sep2016.jpg><_MG_6462_27Sep2016.jpg><_MG_6425_27Sep2016.jpg><_MG_6413_27Sep2016.jpg> > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
