*Sorry this is not C.buchananiana* but *Clematis connata.  Probably 
C.connata var. pseudoconnata *(which some recognise at a higher rank) but 
one cannot see the base of the petioles, which are likely to be dilated and 
connate forming disc-like structures.   Some are very large/pronounced. The 
line drawing in eflora of Pakistan does not show this feature.  Always 
helpful to be able to view both upper and lower surface of leaves.

These two species are often mixed-up but *C.connata* has glabrous foliage 
whilst *C.buchananiana* is often markedly hairy (esp. on undersides of 

'Flora of Kathmandu Valley' says occurs in dry areas from 1600-2600m for 
*C.buchananiana*; 2400-2700m for *C.connata*.  They describe flowers of 
latter as "golden-brown", which is questionable - perhaps a specimen which 
had gone over?

I consider +/- all the images identified as *C.buchananiana,* see: 
*in fact come within Clematis connata*

*Important to check for presence of disc-like structures on future 
occasions (these will vary in prominence).  Often 'glabrous' does not mean 
entirely without hairs.  Typical C.buchananiana is decidedly hairy.*

*I saw what I understand to be genuine C.buchananiana beyond Naini Tal some 
years back but do not have any images to share.  Collet said C.buchananiana 
was common at Shimla but it seems nobody has photographed the genuine 
species and sent images to efloraofIndia.  *

*Cannot find many reliable images of C.buchananiana on internet - a number 
have been misidentified.  See: 

*If you take a look at the pressed specimens collected by Blinkworth in 
Kumaon see: http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K001039669 
<http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K001039669> and by 
Wallich (or for Wallich - as many of his specimens were gathered on his 
behalf) see: 
<http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K001039670> you 
will be convinced of the markedly different foliage cf. C.connata and lack 
of 'connate' petiole bases.*

*There will be variants that have less 'softly hairy' undersides to the 

*I have checked the images for C.connata  and these look OK (though the 
image by Rajesh in VOF has unusual foliage (more images of all the features 
would be helpful to check its identity further) to me with the 'connate' 
feature being drawn attention to.  See: 

*Those who live/visit suitable places, should keep a look out in forests & 
shrubberies @ 1800-3000m.  Stewart found C.connata to be common in Kashmir 
and N.Pakistan @ 1500-2700m.  C.buchananiana he only recorded from Kashmir 
at Tangmarg and Banihal Valley plus Verinag (though 2 of these records were 
19th Century).*

*All the evidence suggests C.connata is common in the NW Himalaya, 
C.buchananiana less so.*

On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 at 8:42:30 AM UTC+1, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:

> Dear Members,
> Sharing some pictures I guess is *Clematis buchananiana* DC. shot at the 
> Chandtagiri Hill Kathmandu on 19 September 2016 at 8200 ft.
> Nepali Names :
> जुंगे लहरा Junge Laharaa/  भेडे लहरा Bhede Laharaa / बाघ जुंगे Baagh Junge 
> /  चर्चरे Charchare /  घन्टे फूल GhantePhool /  खुर्सानी लहरा Khursaani 
> Laharaa /  पहेंलो जुंगे Pahelo Junge 
> Thank you.
> Saroj Kasaju

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