Thanks, Chadwell ji

On 8 Nov 2016 8:37 am, "[email protected]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I think this must be *P.minutissima*.  Cannot think which other species
> it can be.  It is a nonsense (as with Saxifraga jacquemontiana) to suggest
> this plant is Endangered.  It is no such thing.  I repeat my comment that I
> am at a lost to know how species are included in the Red List of Threatened
> Vascular Plants in India (the only reason it is in the IUCN Red List of
> Threatened Plants is because they accepted what was submitted - they are in
> no position to check, just as the species accepted onto Appendices for
> CITES are accepted on no actual evidence as those from the Indian Himalaya
> are *not* 'Rare & Endangered'.  How can botanists who spend so little
> time in the field possibly know what is rare let alone endangered.  You do
> not discover this from an office!.
>
> As Primula minutissima grows well in suitable habitat in Ladakh (I have
> seen it in several places including irrigation channels), also in the
> Kashmir Valley, Kulu Valley and know of it from Baspa Valley, Kinnuar,
> where it is flourishing.  'Flowers of Himalaya' say stony slopes in areas
> near to the Tibetan border @ 3600-5200m. I don't think the authors of these
> 'Red Lists' have spent much time on high passes in the borderlands of Tibet
> to know the status of populations of this plant, anymore than they know
> about colonies of Saxifraga jacquemontiana - neither of which is under any
> threat whatsoever.
>
> *But what about the species what are GENUINELY rare & endangered.... This
> is a seriously wrong situation which needs addressing at the highest levels
> nationally and internationally....   Claims of rarity MUST be based upon
> reliable and accurate information.  How many botanists in India have
> regularly botanised and surveyed in the high mountains?  And of these, how
> many can recognise, whilst in those mountains, such species as
> P.minutissima and Saxifraga jacquemontiana.  I have to an extent and can
> recognise them.   So perhaps my reliable evidence is worth listening to.*
>
> On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 at 8:13:00 AM UTC+1, D.S Rawat wrote:
>
>> *Primula minutissima* Jacq. ex Duby (Primulaceae) is a tiny carpet
>> forming herb in alpine zones of Western Himalaya. It is listed in 1997
>> IUCN Red List of Threatened Plants and in Red List of Threatened
>> Vascular Plant Species in India (Rao *et al.* 2003).
>>
>> Though mentioned as *Endangered*, it requires review of status since in
>> the above document it is shown growing only in Kashmir.
>>
>> This photograph is taken from Kedarnath area (Uttarakhand) but
>> unfortunately in late season (October) thus have no flowers. The rosettes
>> of the plants are visible with preformed inflorescence bud in the center of
>> rosette.
>> It is an addition to eFI database, I hope.
>>
>> Dr D.S.Rawat
>> Department of Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant University of Agriculture &
>> Technology Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA
>>
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