Looks strange Boiss 1842 getting relegated to synonymy of Cambess 1844, former should have been accepted name, unless some valid reason.
Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 11:39 AM, C CHADWELL < [email protected]> wrote: > Dear Dr Singh > > Have just checked 'Flora of India' which used G.ocellatum with > G.mascatense as a synonym. > > See: http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=2993&type=4 > > There is a rudimentary line drawing. > > Account from Volume 4 (they don't say which year this was published). > > I don't rate their distribution information for this species for India. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Cc:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, 19 November 2016, 19:10 > *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:257151] Re: Morni Hills 2014: Geranium > mascatense:: NS Feb 05 > > I don't have my literature here in USA but looking at Tropicos, there > combinations under G. mascatense were proposed as early as 1976 by Raizada > in Suppl. Duthie's Fl. Upper Gangetic Plain 4: 36, but I don't find any > reference merging G. ocellatum proper under G. mascatense. It would be > interesting to look up treatment in Flora of India Series, published after > Raizada. > > http://www.tropicos.org/NameSearch.aspx?name=Geranium+mascatense > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 8:43 AM, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > > *There seems to be different interpretations of Geranium mascatense and > G.ocellatum. This specimen does not show gaps between petals as is usually > the case in photos of plants of G.mascatense in the Gulf - see below.* > > 'The Plant List' gives G.ocellatum as a synonym of the former. Whereas > Nasir in 'Flora of Pakistan' separates the two. Stewart does not list > G,mascatense > at all but has *G.ocellatum* var. *himalaicum* as common from 300-1800m. > Nasir, on the other hand, says that G.mascatense is only sparingly recorded > from Pakistan and then only in Baluchistan. > > G.mascatense is recorded from Africa and the Gulf - so Baluchistan fits OK > with this. Collet had G.ocellatum in hill districts of N.India from same > altitudes as Stewart. IF they constitute separate species, I find it > somewhat surprising to have G.mascatense in the Himalayan foothills. > > I do not know on whose authority G.ocellatum has been sunk into > G.mascatense. According to Nasir the species are very close but > G.mascatense has puberulous mericarps - translating that into English: in > Geranium the dry fruits consists of 5 'mericarps' each with a seed, which > may be explosively dispersed though sometimes remains inside) the > 'puberulous' part means downy with very short soft hairs. *So clearly, > unless one can observe the fruits of a geranium this characteristic cannot > be ascertained. No doubt Nasir knew of other differences.* > > *Taking a quick look at the images for G.mascastense available on the > internet, most show marked gaps between the petals (as do the images taken > in Muscat in the posting above this) compared with images of specimens from > the foothills of the NW Himalaya (incl. the one near Chakki) which may > constitute sufficient to justify them as separate taxa but without careful > study of the whole plants cannot speculate if that is sufficient (or a > consistent difference) to justify separation as varieties, subspecies or at > the species level but the geographic/altitudinal/ climatic differences may > be of significance.* > > *Cannot comment further at this stage.* > > On Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 8:41:59 AM UTC, Nidhan Singh wrote: > > Dear All, > > This beautiful *Geranium*..having deep coloured centre of corolla was > also encountered during my recent visit to Morni Hills..I hope this should > be *Geranium mascatense Boiss.* > > -- > Regards, > > Dr. Nidhan Singh > Assistant Professor > Department of Botany > I.B. 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