I think this sounds more realistic, 2015 paper treating ocellatum as synonym http://www.scitechnol.com/an-assessment-of-diversity-of-genus-geranium-lgeraniaceae-in-india-with-special-emphasis-on-indian-himalayan-region-zkyo.pdf
Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Looks strange Boiss 1842 getting relegated to synonymy of Cambess 1844, > former should have been accepted name, unless some valid reason. > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 11:39 AM, C CHADWELL <chrischadwell261@btinternet. > com> wrote: > >> Dear Dr Singh >> >> Have just checked 'Flora of India' which used G.ocellatum with >> G.mascatense as a synonym. >> >> See: http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id= >> 2993&type=4 >> >> There is a rudimentary line drawing. >> >> Account from Volume 4 (they don't say which year this was published). >> >> I don't rate their distribution information for this species for India. >> >> >> >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> >> Chris Chadwell >> >> >> 81 Parlaunt Road >> SLOUGH >> SL3 8BE >> UK >> >> www.shpa.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> >> *Cc:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Saturday, 19 November 2016, 19:10 >> *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:257151] Re: Morni Hills 2014: Geranium >> mascatense:: NS Feb 05 >> >> I don't have my literature here in USA but looking at Tropicos, there >> combinations under G. mascatense were proposed as early as 1976 by Raizada >> in Suppl. Duthie's Fl. Upper Gangetic Plain 4: 36, but I don't find any >> reference merging G. ocellatum proper under G. mascatense. It would be >> interesting to look up treatment in Flora of India Series, published after >> Raizada. >> >> http://www.tropicos.org/NameSearch.aspx?name=Geranium+mascatense >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 8:43 AM, [email protected] < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> *There seems to be different interpretations of Geranium mascatense and >> G.ocellatum. This specimen does not show gaps between petals as is usually >> the case in photos of plants of G.mascatense in the Gulf - see below.* >> >> 'The Plant List' gives G.ocellatum as a synonym of the former. Whereas >> Nasir in 'Flora of Pakistan' separates the two. Stewart does not list >> G,mascatense >> at all but has *G.ocellatum* var. *himalaicum* as common from >> 300-1800m. Nasir, on the other hand, says that G.mascatense is only >> sparingly recorded from Pakistan and then only in Baluchistan. >> >> G.mascatense is recorded from Africa and the Gulf - so Baluchistan fits >> OK with this. Collet had G.ocellatum in hill districts of N.India from >> same altitudes as Stewart. IF they constitute separate species, I find it >> somewhat surprising to have G.mascatense in the Himalayan foothills. >> >> I do not know on whose authority G.ocellatum has been sunk into >> G.mascatense. According to Nasir the species are very close but >> G.mascatense has puberulous mericarps - translating that into English: in >> Geranium the dry fruits consists of 5 'mericarps' each with a seed, which >> may be explosively dispersed though sometimes remains inside) the >> 'puberulous' part means downy with very short soft hairs. *So clearly, >> unless one can observe the fruits of a geranium this characteristic cannot >> be ascertained. No doubt Nasir knew of other differences.* >> >> *Taking a quick look at the images for G.mascastense available on the >> internet, most show marked gaps between the petals (as do the images taken >> in Muscat in the posting above this) compared with images of specimens from >> the foothills of the NW Himalaya (incl. the one near Chakki) which may >> constitute sufficient to justify them as separate taxa but without careful >> study of the whole plants cannot speculate if that is sufficient (or a >> consistent difference) to justify separation as varieties, subspecies or at >> the species level but the geographic/altitudinal/ climatic differences may >> be of significance.* >> >> *Cannot comment further at this stage.* >> >> On Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 8:41:59 AM UTC, Nidhan Singh wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> This beautiful *Geranium*..having deep coloured centre of corolla was >> also encountered during my recent visit to Morni Hills..I hope this should >> be *Geranium mascatense Boiss.* >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Dr. Nidhan Singh >> Assistant Professor >> Department of Botany >> I.B. 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