Thanks, Pankaj ji. On 20 December 2016 at 10:24, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote:
> Andocorys pugionformis has been reported from Jammu and Kashmir, Himachal > Pradesh, Uttarakhand (Garhwal), Nepal, India (Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh), > Bhutan, Tibet and China.from elevation above 3000m (to be precise from 2700 > - 5000 m). There had been recent records from Nepal and Uttarakhand (around > 2004) > Just for information, there is a group in China who are revising the genus > and hence be ready for some major changes again. I assume they will put > everything back into Herminium along with some Platanthera too. > Habitat (copied from J.S.Jalal D.Sc thesis (2011): Occurs in alpine > meadows between 3600 and 4000m and prefers to grow in exposed meadows with > 2-3 individuals together with association of Danthonia cachemyriana Jaub. & > Spach, Bistorata affinis (D.Don) Greene, grasses, ferns and other alpine > herbs. This is a very rare species in the west Himalaya and due to grazing > pressures and other biotic activities in its natural habitat; this species > seems to be on > the verge of extinction. > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:13 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Date: 20 Dec 2016 6:44 a.m. >> Subject: [efloraofindia:259591] Re: Is this Herminium monorchis 'Musk >> Orchid' photographed on Khelanmarg? >> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >> Cc: <[email protected]> >> >> Thanks Dr Kumar. >> >> Can you tell us of any recent records of *Androcorys pugionformis >> (Lindl. ex Hook.f.) K.Y.Lang *in Kashmir or indeed along the Himalaya as >> a whole? >> >> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 5:08:59 AM UTC, JM Garg wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Chadwell ji. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: C CHADWELL <[email protected]> >>> Date: 18 December 2016 at 03:40 >>> Subject: Is this Herminium monorchis 'Musk Orchid' photographed on >>> Khelanmarg? >>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> I began by thinking that it would be worthwhile to have images of >>> Herminium monorchis >>> taken in the NW Himalaya to add to those posted from Uttarakhand *and >>> that this post would* >>> *be quick and straightforward, however, it has not worked out that way >>> but always useful* >>> *to check things - even though rather time-consuming. It is >>> all-too-easy to casually assume* >>> *a plant belongs to a well-known species without ever examining it >>> closely, so you can be* >>> *aware of similar ones or spot differences/misidentifications of that >>> species.* >>> >>> *I have e.g. never looked at Herminium monorchis with a hand-lens @ x10 >>> or x20 magnification.* >>> >>> *I must admit that after ALWAYS wearing and regularly using a hand lens >>> in the UK and on my* >>> *early expeditions to the Himalaya, I used one less and less - in part >>> because seldom is such detail* >>> *available/used in local floras.* >>> >>> I photographed on my most recent visit to Kashmir an orchid at the edge >>> of Khelanmarg, which I >>> took to be Herminium monorchis. >>> >>> See images 1-5 below. >>> >>> Not being an orchid specialist, I have never taken much notice of them, >>> unlike some who make a >>> special effort to track down every member of Orchidaceae they can. >>> >>> Having complex flowers, those with smaller-sized flowers require >>> close-inspection. >>> >>> I first came across this orchid beside the Sind River at Sonamarg during >>> the Kashmir Botanical Expedition >>> of 1983. It was also found along irrigation channels of cultivated >>> fields in Miyah Nullah whilst leading >>> botanical tours in Lahoul in the mid-1980s. >>> >>> Flowers of the Himalaya record it in forests and marshy ground in drier >>> areas @ 3000-4300m from Pakistan >>> to Central Nepal, Tibet, China, N.Asia, Europe. >>> >>> Stewart recorded it from N.Pakistan incl. Baltistan and Ladakh @ >>> 2400-4200m. >>> >>> However, 'Plants of Gulmarg' by Naqshi, Singh & Koul (1984) do not >>> record Herminium monorchis *but do* >>> *list Herminium pugioniforme* on the basis of a 19th Century record by >>> Aitchison - as does Stewart, who found >>> it near Mt. Kolahoi in the Upper Lidder Valley. None of the other >>> orchids they list seem likely. >>> >>> *So, had I mistaken what I though was H.monorchis for H.pugionforme, >>> which I had never heard of, or* >>> *the Musk Orchid had been missed on Khelanmarg?* >>> >>> *It seems that H.pugioniforme is now Androcorys pugionformis (Lindl. ex >>> Hook.f.) K.Y.Lang, see:* >>> >>> >>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000387532 - *it >>> is impossible to say much on the* >>> *low resolution image of this pressed specimen at Kew (at least to my >>> eye, unfamiliar with orchids).* >>> >>> *However, there are a number of close-up images:* >>> >>> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22Androcorys+pugioniformi >>> s%22&tbm=isch&gws_rd=ssl#gws_rd=ssl&imgrc=JkmWSuh6HdVErM%3A. >>> >>> *My initial impressions are that Herminium monorchis seems more likely >>> but I would welcome the thoughts of others?* >>> >>> >>> Best Wishes, >>> >>> >>> Chris Chadwell >>> >>> >>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>> SLOUGH >>> SL3 8BEs >>> UK >>> >>> www.shpa.org.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>> >>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>> India'. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > ************************************************************ > ********************************************************** > *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. > *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* > > *Office*: > > Conservation Officer > > Orchid Conservation Section > > Flora Conservation Department > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > *Residence*: > House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen > Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] > *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 > (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 > > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. 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