Dears,

I have photographed these roses from the same locality in Himachal Pradesh - 
about 800 m asl near Sundernagar in Mandi district. Of all the wild plants, 
only one plant was having pinkish flowers.


I have not had the chance to revisit the locality again.


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)


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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: efloraofindia; gurinder
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:261661] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa moschata from 
Himachal-GSG02/Sept 2015

Thanks, Chadwell ji.

On 17 January 2017 at 06:10, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It would be helpful to know where and at what altitude in H.P. these roses were 
found?   The 'pink' flowered one does not seem to match the first two
images.  Were they from different locations?

Pink-flowered variants of Rosa brunonii are known from Bhutan, so the flower 
colour alone does not preclude it from being R.brunonii.

See my posts about the COMPLEXITIES of the genus Rosa.

Rosa brunonii seems to be the widespread climbing rose typically with white or 
cream flowers.  But other species (and cultivated hybrids) are known.
My post about Rosa in Britain & Ireland indicates that a leading specialist who 
is currently acting as Referee for specimens of Rosa states that one cannot
DETERMINE a species of Rosa in the UK on the basis of flowers alone!   
FULLY-DEVELOPED HIPS are required along with portions of leading stem (not
suckers) with leaves and characteristic bristles; a sample of sepals is 
beneficial.......

On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 5:15:10 PM UTC+1, gurinder goraya wrote:
Dears,

Find below pics of Rosa moschata (R. brunonii) from Himachal Pradesh. Usually 
having white flowers, I have recorded one plant with pinkish flowers.. Hope it 
is also the same species with some colour variation... or may be a result of 
some hybridisation.. Comments are solicited pl.


[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/17dbedc7592d10/Rosa%20moschata-1.JPG?part=0.1&authuser=0]





[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/17dbedc7592d10/Rosa%20moschata%20(2).JPG?part=0.2&authuser=0]




[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/17dbedc7592d10/Rosa%20moschata-pink.JPG?part=0.3&authuser=0]




Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)

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