Thanks for supplying the information.
My records indicate that Rosa brunonii has not been found below 1220m before so
800m is significantlylower.
Given its low altitude and thus proximity to habitation the appearance of being
wild COULD just mean ithas naturalised.
Interesting.
Please note my other comments as to the challenges of identifying roses.
Best Wishes,
Chris Chadwell
81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK
www.shpa.org.uk
From: gurinder goraya <[email protected]>
To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>; "[email protected]"
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Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:261722] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa moschata from
Himachal-GSG02/Sept 2015
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{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv1721455333 Dears,
I have photographed these roses from the same locality in Himachal Pradesh -
about 800 m asl near Sundernagar in Mandi district. Of all the wild plants,
only one plant was having pinkish flowers.
I have not had the chance to revisit the locality again.
Dr. G S Goraya, IFSDeputy Director General (Research),Indian Council of
Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand,
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)
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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:261661] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa moschata from
Himachal-GSG02/Sept 2015 Thanks, Chadwell ji.
On 17 January 2017 at 06:10, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
It would be helpful to know where and at what altitude in H.P. these roses were
found? The 'pink' flowered one does not seem to match the first twoimages.
Were they from different locations?
Pink-flowered variants of Rosa brunonii are known from Bhutan, so the flower
colour alone does not preclude it from being R.brunonii.
See my posts about the COMPLEXITIES of the genus Rosa.
Rosa brunonii seems to be the widespread climbing rose typically with white or
cream flowers. But other species (and cultivated hybrids) are known.My post
about Rosa in Britain & Ireland indicates that a leading specialist who is
currently acting as Referee for specimens of Rosa states that one
cannotDETERMINE a species of Rosa in the UK on the basis of flowers alone!
FULLY-DEVELOPED HIPS are required along with portions of leading stem
(notsuckers) with leaves and characteristic bristles; a sample of sepals is
beneficial.......
On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 5:15:10 PM UTC+1, gurinder goraya wrote:
Dears,
Find below pics of Rosa moschata (R. brunonii) from Himachal Pradesh. Usually
having white flowers, I have recorded one plant with pinkish flowers.. Hope it
is also the same species with some colour variation... or may be a result of
some hybridisation.. Comments are solicited pl.
Regards,
Dr. G S Goraya, IFSDeputy Director General (Research),Indian Council of
Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand,
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)
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