Rashida ji
Sterculia appears unlikely, because in few flowers where fruits have started
forming, we can see a single ovary where as in Sterculia there should be up
to 5 separate ovaries. Also the flowers would be larger in Sterculia.
The confusion earlier arose because Sterculia villosa was followed by S.
acuminata, which to normal reader would imply Sterculia acuminata only.
However, we were discussing Spondias acuminata so I wanted clarification
because Sterculia acuminata would be much different plant Cola acuminata.
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On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Rashida Atthar
<[email protected]>wrote:
> Sir I meant Sterculia villosa, the bark appears to be matching.
>
> regards,
> Rasihda.
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Rashida ji
>> Sterculia is confusing me Rashida ji. Did you mean to type Spondias?
>>
>>
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>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
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>>
>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Rashida Atthar <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Dinesh ji, Satish ji,
>>>
>>> I would guess this to be Sterculia villosa from the slightly greenish,
>>> white, shiny bark. I have not seen S. acuminata so can't be sure.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Rashida.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> No responses (?)
>>>> Spondias genus seems to be rather uncommon.
>>>> Rashida ji Prashant ji Pravin ji and those who have seen a lot of
>>>> Western ghat flora what are your opinions?and of course Neil ji if he has
>>>> not yet left fot the trip of Northeast.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9 May 2010 12:29, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Resurfacing again for ID confirmation
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:32434] DV - 14APR10 - 0138 :: ¿ Spondias
>>>>> acuminata ?
>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>> Could provide very scant information; the leafless tree in far distance
>>>>> attracted me due to its cream-coloured inflorescence.
>>>>> The photos too may not provide much clues to ID; yet hoping to get some
>>>>> info.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date/Time : April 14, 2010 at 1.38pm IST
>>>>> Location Place : Palghar Road (Ghat section)
>>>>>
>>>>> Altitude : 82 m
>>>>> GPS : 19°42'0.75"N, 72°49'17.99"E
>>>>>
>>>>> Habitat : wild
>>>>> Type : mixed deciduous forest
>>>>>
>>>>> Plant
>>>>> Habit : medium sized deciduous tree
>>>>> Height : 15 - 20 ft
>>>>> Length : - not a climber -
>>>>>
>>>>> Leaves
>>>>> Type : do not know
>>>>> Shape : do not know
>>>>> Size : do not know
>>>>>
>>>>> Inflorescence
>>>>> Type : panicle
>>>>> Size : can not guess
>>>>>
>>>>> Flowers
>>>>> Size : can not guess
>>>>> Colour : off-white
>>>>> Calyx : do not know
>>>>> Bracts : - no bracts -
>>>>>
>>>>> Fruits
>>>>> Type : do not know
>>>>> Shape : do not know
>>>>> Size : do not know
>>>>> Seeds : do not know
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Other Info
>>>>> Fragrance : do not know
>>>>> Pollinator : do not know
>>>>> Uses : do not know
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts exchanged between Satish (Pardeshi) ji and me at Google Buzz
>>>>> put here:
>>>>>
>>>>> x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
>>>>> x x x x x x x x x x
>>>>> satish pardeshi - first two pic look like that of *Spondias*!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Dinesh Valke - yes !!! ... many thanks, Satish ji.
>>>>>
>>>>> satish pardeshi - Palghar is really nice place, i have been there a
>>>>> few times... the estuary, the beaches, the forest on the hills along the
>>>>> highway, the water bodies and the wadis of the local people for growing
>>>>> vegetables and fruit... all is really nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dinesh Valke - Satish ji ... on second thoughts ... slightly not
>>>>> confident about the plant being *S. pinnata*.
>>>>> Have got few views of *S. pinnata* seen at Yeoor Hills and near
>>>>> Revdanda ...
>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Spondiaspinnata&w=91314344%40N00&m=tags
>>>>>
>>>>> The inflorescence in my earlier views, seem to be wiry and relatively
>>>>> longer and much more branched.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your thoughts please.
>>>>>
>>>>> satish pardeshi - Yes Dinesh ji
>>>>> it is different from ur pics at flicr...i am pretty sure this is of *
>>>>> Spondias* species.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dinesh Valke - Cooke's Flora of Bombay describes two species: *S.
>>>>> mangifera* ( syn. of *S. pinnata* ) and lesser known *S. acuminata*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Key described:
>>>>> Panicle 12 - 15 in. long; stone rough .................................
>>>>> *S. mangifera*
>>>>> Panicle 6 - 8 in. long; stone smooth ..................................
>>>>> *S. acuminata*
>>>>>
>>>>> Another difference found in the descriptions:
>>>>> *S. mangifera*:
>>>>> ... bark smooth, ash coloured, branches nearly horizontal;
>>>>> ... leaflets 3 - 5 pairs and a terminal one ...
>>>>>
>>>>> *S. acuminata*:
>>>>> ... bark smooth, olive-grey; branches spreading in all directions from
>>>>> erecto-patent above to divaricate below
>>>>> ... leaflets 5 - 8 pairs (and a terminal one) ...
>>>>>
>>>>> BUT the book mentions that existence of *S. acuminata* in Bombay
>>>>> Presidency is somewhat doubtful, ... Cooke had seen one imperfect specimen
>>>>> from the hills of Kanheri, not differing from *S. mangifera* !!
>>>>>
>>>>> Satish ji, do you think this plant to be *S. acuminata* OR yet some
>>>>> other species of *Spondias* ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
>>>>> x x x x x x x x x x
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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