Dear friends, many many many thanks to all of you: Neil ji, Muthu ji, Hemanth ji, Satish Phadke ji, Gurcharan ji, Rashida ji, Amogh ji, Satish Pardeshi ji.
The difficulty with making ID is obviously because of distant (and blurred) photo. Hopefully one of coming weekends, will visit this spot to check its phase ... again would be a distant shot ... perhaps it will help us in asserting on OR ruling out some genus. Until then, *Spondias* (*pinnata*) seems to be the most likely candidate. Thoughts are yet welcome. Regards. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Pardeshi S. <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello all > To me it is Spondia pinnata. Garuga pinnata have infloresecence more > or less globular. in this case it is pyramidal. > spondias is quiet common in Palghar area. > > Regards > Satish Pardeshi > > On May 12, 1:08 pm, Rashida Atthar <[email protected]> wrote: > > Perhaps your friend is correct. G. pinnata seems quite likely, only > doubt > > is the partially dried inflorescence should be appearing more yellowish > > rather than creamish, white. Attaching separately pics of G. pinnate > taken > > at CEC in Feb. '10. for comparison. > > > > regards, > > Rashida. > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Neil Soares <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > A reply from my friend Amogh Ghaisas, who runs a nursery for forest > trees > > > at Rajmachi, Lonavala. > > > Regards, > > > Neil Soares. > > > > > It is Garuga pinnata according to me. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Amogh Ghaisas > > > > > Regards, > > > Neil Soares > > > > > --- On *Wed, 5/12/10, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > > > From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:34600] DV - 14APR10 - 0138 :: ¿ Spondias > > > acuminata ? > > > To: "Rashida Atthar" <[email protected]> > > > Cc: "Satish Phadke" <[email protected]>, "efloraofindia" < > > > [email protected]>, "Neil Soares" <[email protected] > >, > > > "Nayan Singh" <[email protected]>, "Vijayasankar Raman" < > > > [email protected]>, "Muthu Karthick" <[email protected]> > > > Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 11:02 AM > > > > > Rashida ji > > > Sterculia appears unlikely, because in few flowers where fruits have > > > started forming, we can see a single ovary where as in Sterculia there > > > should be up to 5 separate ovaries. Also the flowers would be larger in > > > Sterculia. > > > The confusion earlier arose because Sterculia villosa was followed > by > > > S. acuminata, which to normal reader would imply Sterculia acuminata > only. > > > However, we were discussing Spondias acuminata so I wanted > clarification > > > because Sterculia acuminata would be much different plant Cola > acuminata. > > > > > -- > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > > Retired Associate Professor > > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> > <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> > > > > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Rashida Atthar < > [email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> Sir I meant Sterculia villosa, the bark appears to be matching. > > > > >> regards, > > >> Rasihda. > > > > >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > >> > wrote: > > > > >>> Rashida ji > > >>> Sterculia is confusing me Rashida ji. Did you mean to type Spondias? > > > > >>> -- > > >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > >>> Retired Associate Professor > > >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > >>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> > <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> > > > > >>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Rashida Atthar < > > >>> [email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > >>> > wrote: > > > > >>>> Dinesh ji, Satish ji, > > > > >>>> I would guess this to be Sterculia villosa from the slightly > greenish, > > >>>> white, shiny bark. I have not seen S. acuminata so can't be sure. > > > > >>>> regards, > > >>>> Rashida. > > > > >>>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Satish Phadke < > [email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > >>>> > wrote: > > > > >>>>> No responses (?) > > >>>>> Spondias genus seems to be rather uncommon. > > >>>>> Rashida ji Prashant ji Pravin ji and those who have seen a lot of > > >>>>> Western ghat flora what are your opinions?and of course Neil ji if > he has > > >>>>> not yet left fot the trip of Northeast. > > > > >>>>> On 9 May 2010 12:29, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > >>>>> > wrote: > > > > >>>>>> Resurfacing again for ID confirmation > > > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor > > >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > >>>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> > <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> > > > > >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > >>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > > >>>>>> Date: Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:27 PM > > >>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:32434] DV - 14APR10 - 0138 :: ¿ Spondias > > >>>>>> acuminata ? > > >>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantree...@googlegrou...> > > > > >>>>>> Dear friends, > > >>>>>> Could provide very scant information; the leafless tree in far > > >>>>>> distance attracted me due to its cream-coloured inflorescence. > > >>>>>> The photos too may not provide much clues to ID; yet hoping to get > > >>>>>> some info. > > > > >>>>>> Date/Time : April 14, 2010 at 1.38pm IST > > >>>>>> Location Place : Palghar Road (Ghat section) > > > > >>>>>> Altitude : 82 m > > >>>>>> GPS : 19°42'0.75"N, 72°49'17.99"E > > > > >>>>>> Habitat : wild > > >>>>>> Type : mixed deciduous forest > > > > >>>>>> Plant > > >>>>>> Habit : medium sized deciduous tree > > >>>>>> Height : 15 - 20 ft > > >>>>>> Length : - not a climber - > > > > >>>>>> Leaves > > >>>>>> Type : do not know > > >>>>>> Shape : do not know > > >>>>>> Size : do not know > > > > >>>>>> Inflorescence > > >>>>>> Type : panicle > > >>>>>> Size : can not guess > > > > >>>>>> Flowers > > >>>>>> Size : can not guess > > >>>>>> Colour : off-white > > >>>>>> Calyx : do not know > > >>>>>> Bracts : - no bracts - > > > > >>>>>> Fruits > > >>>>>> Type : do not know > > >>>>>> Shape : do not know > > >>>>>> Size : do not know > > >>>>>> Seeds : do not know > > > > >>>>>> Other Info > > >>>>>> Fragrance : do not know > > >>>>>> Pollinator : do not know > > >>>>>> Uses : do not know > > > > >>>>>> Thoughts exchanged between Satish (Pardeshi) ji and me at Google > Buzz > > >>>>>> put here: > > > > >>>>>> x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x > x x > > >>>>>> x x x x x x x x x x > > >>>>>> satish pardeshi - first two pic look like that of *Spondias*!!! > > > > >>>>>> Dinesh Valke - yes !!! ... many thanks, Satish ji. > > > > >>>>>> satish pardeshi - Palghar is really nice place, i have been there > a > > >>>>>> few times... the estuary, the beaches, the forest on the hills > along the > > >>>>>> highway, the water bodies and the wadis of the local people for > growing > > >>>>>> vegetables and fruit... all is really nice. > > > > >>>>>> Dinesh Valke - Satish ji ... on second thoughts ... slightly not > > >>>>>> confident about the plant being *S. pinnata*. > > >>>>>> Have got few views of *S. pinnata* seen at Yeoor Hills and near > > >>>>>> Revdanda ... > > > > >>>>>> > http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Spondiaspinnata&w=91314344%40N00&m=tags > > > > >>>>>> The inflorescence in my earlier views, seem to be wiry and > relatively > > >>>>>> longer and much more branched. > > > > >>>>>> Your thoughts please. > > > > >>>>>> satish pardeshi - Yes Dinesh ji > > >>>>>> it is different from ur pics at flicr...i am pretty sure this is > of * > > >>>>>> Spondias* species. > > > > >>>>>> Dinesh Valke - Cooke's Flora of Bombay describes two species: *S. > > >>>>>> mangifera* ( syn. of *S. pinnata* ) and lesser known *S. > acuminata*. > > > > >>>>>> Key described: > > >>>>>> Panicle 12 - 15 in. long; stone rough > > >>>>>> ................................. *S. mangifera* > > >>>>>> Panicle 6 - 8 in. long; stone smooth > > >>>>>> .................................. *S. acuminata* > > > > >>>>>> Another difference found in the descriptions: > > >>>>>> *S. mangifera*: > > >>>>>> ... bark smooth, ash coloured, branches nearly horizontal; > > >>>>>> ... leaflets 3 - 5 pairs and a terminal one ... > > > > >>>>>> *S. acuminata*: > > >>>>>> ... bark smooth, olive-grey; branches spreading in all directions > from > > >>>>>> erecto-patent above to divaricate below > > >>>>>> ... leaflets 5 - 8 pairs (and a terminal one) ... > > > > >>>>>> BUT the book mentions that existence of *S. acuminata* in Bombay > > >>>>>> Presidency is somewhat doubtful, ... Cooke had seen one imperfect > specimen > > >>>>>> from the hills of Kanheri, not differing from *S. mangifera* !! > > > > >>>>>> Satish ji, do you think this plant to be *S. acuminata* OR yet > some > > >>>>>> other species of *Spondias* ? > > > > >>>>>> Many thanks. > > > > >>>>>> x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x > x x > > >>>>>> x x x x x x x x x x > > > > >>>>>> Regards. > > > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. > > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantree...@googlegrou...> > > >>>>>> . > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> > <http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix%2Bunsubscr...> > > >>>>>> . > > >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. > > > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. > > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantree...@googlegrou...> > > >>>>>> . > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> > <http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix%2Bunsubscr...> > > >>>>>> . > > >>>>>> For more options, visit > > > > ... > > > > read more » > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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