Respected Sir
I respect you more than before for your response.
Thanks a lot.
Best regards
Pankaj



On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 17:44, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> wrote:

> Pankaj ji,
> Thank you for your concern.
> The questions asked by you have already been asked in past.  See the
> attachments.
> Yes, I served BSI for 36 years.  Their libraries and herbaria are public
> properties and anyone can go and consult.
> Digitization is going on in all the Units of BSI but their specimens are
> not yet online as per Govt. of India policies. They are putting their
> Floras online and eventually all their publications will be available in
> their website.
> Best regards,
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:17 PM Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Respected Sir
>> I am sorry but I didnt mean that my work is dependent on the books gifted
>> by others. Neither am I comparing our governments. And my response was in
>> the form of the attached image for Usha mam (four volumes of Flora of Hong
>> Kong) who asked if there is something modern.
>> But if a government agency gifts you a book published by the government,
>> then it comes as a kind of recognition and acknowledgment of your work.
>> What I got from HK government was the recognition of my work. I do get lot
>> of book gifts from all over the world and of course I gift to people too
>> when I feel like. I also used to send DVDs and CDs with floristic documents
>> to the members of this group while I was in India, every one knows.
>> I also (100%) agree that most of the publications by government agencies
>> are cheap and thats a good thing, afterall those government agencies work
>> on Indian Tax payers money if I am correct.
>> Secondly, you said about good libraries. May I know how easy it is to
>> visit a BSI library (I am not sure but this question is based on assumption
>> that you are from BSI, otherwise no need to answer)? I do have many very
>> good friends still at BSI.
>> Thirdly I have one last question. During 1870 - 1890 one person wrote a
>> book on Flora of British India in 6 volumes, each volume over 700 pages of
>> species description (original plus his own). Why no one else could write
>> till now?
>> Just for info of all the members that there is a full set of flora of
>> China available in Chinese and English, with all latin names and their
>> chinese names (even chinese names are unique). All their herbarium
>> collections are digitised (each and every herbaria at any given university)
>> and available online. I am sure you cant compare India and HK but surely
>> you can compare China and India.
>> My intention is not to express my grudge against anyone, but to express
>> that it feels good to be recognized. It gives encouragement to work harder
>> and do better for science.
>> Thanks and regards
>> Pankaj
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 16:16, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Usha di and Pankaj ji,
>>> It is not "strange" for me that no Govt. gave or gifted me any book in
>>> 40 years of my research career! I never expected that I will carry out
>>> research on gifted books. Good libraries are there for this purpose which
>>> allow free consultation of book and journals. Some authors give
>>> complimentary copies on request or now a days send PFD of publications.
>>> Govt. Organizations in India publish books and journals on no profit no
>>> loss basis and they are very cheap as such.
>>> I myself sent PDF of  Flora of India, Volume 23 to many persons free of
>>> cost.
>>> Hence please do not feel this way that you did not get any book in India
>>> as gift in 10 years. Hongkong is a small place and their Govt should not be
>>> compare with our Govt.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 13:14 Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tapasda
>>>> yes Thank you for sharing the list
>>>> and often BHL / they dont let me download a book pdf
>>>>
>>>> I find there are many other sources for these old books
>>>> i generally find them
>>>>
>>>> but old lists and descriptions are just that
>>>>
>>>> =
>>>> usha di
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Literature available in BHL are mostly classical publications and many
>>>>> are written in Latin but that is the foundation of the modern plant
>>>>> taxonomy; plant identification is only a part of the subject. It was very
>>>>> difficult to obtain classical literature prior to BHL and Botanicus era.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 01:37 Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pankaj
>>>>>> "There are proper books "
>>>>>> any modern ones???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the flora in bhl site is from 1800s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:12 PM, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pavetta hongkongensis Bremek.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Pankaj !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 8:43 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 8:18 AM Pankaj Kumar, <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No I have not. Yes I know the orchids well though but other plants
>>>>>>>>> I need to check the keys. Hong Kong has very well documented flora and
>>>>>>>>> fauna because it is a very small place. There are proper books and 
>>>>>>>>> online
>>>>>>>>> materials to check.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 10:22, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji.
>>>>>>>>>> You have great knowledge of Flora of Hong Kong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 6:12 AM Pankaj Kumar, <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This looks like Pavetta hongkongensis.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 21:54, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Victoria Peak, Hong Kong
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 12 August 2018
>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 1300 ft.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> ******************************************************
>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************************
>>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Office*:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436
>>>>>>>>>>> 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> ******************************************************
>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************************
>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Office*:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436
>>>>>>>>> 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ===========
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Usha di
>>>> ===========
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> ******************************************************
>> ****************************************************************
>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
>>
>> *Office*:
>>
>> Orchid Conservation Section
>>
>> Flora Conservation Department
>>
>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China
>>
>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected]
>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251
>> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194
>>
>>

-- 
******************************************************
****************************************************************
*Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
*IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*

*Office*:

Orchid Conservation Section

Flora Conservation Department

Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China

*email*: [email protected]; [email protected]
*Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251
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