what i want to know is how did Harvard univ get involved in the FOC project? is it because chinese immigrants have had a long history in USa and then when CHinese market got opened in the 1970s ?
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:46 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > It is good to see everyone whether from BSI or outside helping in building > efloraofindia as we are. efloraofindia published by BSI online has really > been a great help to us since it's publication. > Of course, China is far ahead of us now. But it is not that we will always > be lagging. Our time will also come. > > On Wed 12 Sep, 2018, 3:47 PM Pankaj Kumar, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Respected Sir >> I respect you more than before for your response. >> Thanks a lot. >> Best regards >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 17:44, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Pankaj ji, >>> Thank you for your concern. >>> The questions asked by you have already been asked in past. See the >>> attachments. >>> Yes, I served BSI for 36 years. Their libraries and herbaria are public >>> properties and anyone can go and consult. >>> Digitization is going on in all the Units of BSI but their specimens are >>> not yet online as per Govt. of India policies. They are putting their >>> Floras online and eventually all their publications will be available in >>> their website. >>> Best regards, >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:17 PM Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Respected Sir >>>> I am sorry but I didnt mean that my work is dependent on the books >>>> gifted by others. Neither am I comparing our governments. And my response >>>> was in the form of the attached image for Usha mam (four volumes of Flora >>>> of Hong Kong) who asked if there is something modern. >>>> But if a government agency gifts you a book published by the >>>> government, then it comes as a kind of recognition and acknowledgment of >>>> your work. What I got from HK government was the recognition of my work. I >>>> do get lot of book gifts from all over the world and of course I gift to >>>> people too when I feel like. I also used to send DVDs and CDs with >>>> floristic documents to the members of this group while I was in India, >>>> every one knows. >>>> I also (100%) agree that most of the publications by government >>>> agencies are cheap and thats a good thing, afterall those government >>>> agencies work on Indian Tax payers money if I am correct. >>>> Secondly, you said about good libraries. May I know how easy it is to >>>> visit a BSI library (I am not sure but this question is based on assumption >>>> that you are from BSI, otherwise no need to answer)? I do have many very >>>> good friends still at BSI. >>>> Thirdly I have one last question. During 1870 - 1890 one person wrote a >>>> book on Flora of British India in 6 volumes, each volume over 700 pages of >>>> species description (original plus his own). Why no one else could write >>>> till now? >>>> Just for info of all the members that there is a full set of flora of >>>> China available in Chinese and English, with all latin names and their >>>> chinese names (even chinese names are unique). All their herbarium >>>> collections are digitised (each and every herbaria at any given university) >>>> and available online. I am sure you cant compare India and HK but surely >>>> you can compare China and India. >>>> My intention is not to express my grudge against anyone, but to express >>>> that it feels good to be recognized. It gives encouragement to work harder >>>> and do better for science. >>>> Thanks and regards >>>> Pankaj >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 16:16, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you Usha di and Pankaj ji, >>>>> It is not "strange" for me that no Govt. gave or gifted me any book in >>>>> 40 years of my research career! I never expected that I will carry out >>>>> research on gifted books. Good libraries are there for this purpose which >>>>> allow free consultation of book and journals. Some authors give >>>>> complimentary copies on request or now a days send PFD of publications. >>>>> Govt. Organizations in India publish books and journals on no profit no >>>>> loss basis and they are very cheap as such. >>>>> I myself sent PDF of Flora of India, Volume 23 to many persons free >>>>> of cost. >>>>> Hence please do not feel this way that you did not get any book in >>>>> India as gift in 10 years. Hongkong is a small place and their Govt should >>>>> not be compare with our Govt. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 13:14 Ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Tapasda >>>>>> yes Thank you for sharing the list >>>>>> and often BHL / they dont let me download a book pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> I find there are many other sources for these old books >>>>>> i generally find them >>>>>> >>>>>> but old lists and descriptions are just that >>>>>> >>>>>> = >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Literature available in BHL are mostly classical publications and >>>>>>> many are written in Latin but that is the foundation of the modern plant >>>>>>> taxonomy; plant identification is only a part of the subject. It was >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> difficult to obtain classical literature prior to BHL and Botanicus era. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 01:37 Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>> "There are proper books " >>>>>>>> any modern ones??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the flora in bhl site is from 1800s >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:12 PM, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pavetta hongkongensis Bremek. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you Pankaj ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 8:43 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 8:18 AM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No I have not. Yes I know the orchids well though but other >>>>>>>>>>> plants I need to check the keys. Hong Kong has very well documented >>>>>>>>>>> flora >>>>>>>>>>> and fauna because it is a very small place. There are proper books >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> online materials to check. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 10:22, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. >>>>>>>>>>>> You have great knowledge of Flora of Hong Kong. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 6:12 AM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This looks like Pavetta hongkongensis. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 21:54, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Victoria Peak, Hong Kong >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 12 August 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 1300 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> ************************************************************ >>>>>>>>>>>>> ********************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 9436 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> ************************************************************ >>>>>>>>>>> ********************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 >>>>>>>>>>> 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Usha di >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ************************************************************ >>>> ********************************************************** >>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>> >>>> *Office*: >>>> >>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>> >>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>> >>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>> >>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >>>> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> ************************************************************ >> ********************************************************** >> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >> >> *Office*: >> >> Orchid Conservation Section >> >> Flora Conservation Department >> >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >> >> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >> >> -- Usha di =========== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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