My pleasure. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:10 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks very much, Usha di. > Regards. > dinesh > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:02 PM Ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> like the diligence and collegiality in this thread >> thats why we are here >> >> love it >> usha di >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:09 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Garg ji for the keys and analysis. >>> Updating this post with the concluded ID ... *Aristolochia elegans* >>> Mast. ... as per discussion in another post >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/X4FCViRQ83U/lX8klUh4BwAJ> >>> . >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 10:04 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Garg ji. >>>> The posted plant, clearly has a conspicuous ear-like structure >>>> (auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each leaf stalk. Thus, as per >>>> keys, will be not *A. gigantea*. >>>> I suggest we also pay heed to the fruits which are different looking >>>> among the above listed species. >>>> Will return to this post when I find the plant in flowering as well as >>>> fruiting. >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 5:38 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I could get the differences between the closely elated species from Lucid >>>>> Central >>>>> <https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/aristolochia_elegans.htm> >>>>> as below: >>>>> >>>>> Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia elegans*) is similar to several >>>>> closely related introduced species that have also become naturalised in >>>>> Australia, including pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*), >>>>> fragrant Dutchman's pipe (*Arsitolochia odoratissima*) and gaping >>>>> Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia ringens*). It is also very similar to >>>>> the cultivated giant dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia gigantea*) which >>>>> is often confused with pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*) in >>>>> the horticultural industry. These species can be distinguished by the >>>>> following differences: >>>>> >>>>> - *Dutchman's pipe (Aristolochia elegans) has a small ear-like >>>>> structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each leaf >>>>> stalk*. >>>>> Its flowers are relatively large and broad (up to 7.5 cm long and 10 cm >>>>> wide) and its relatively large fruit (4-6 cm long and about 2.5 cm >>>>> wide) >>>>> are oblong in shape with a short projection (about 10 mm long) at the >>>>> tip. >>>>> >>>>> - *giant dutchman's pipe (Aristolochia gigantea ) does not >>>>> have a small ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the >>>>> base of each leaf stalk*. Its flowers are very large and broad (up >>>>> to 30 cm long and 20 cm wide) and its relatively large fruit (up to 8 >>>>> cm >>>>> long and 3 cm wide) are oblong in shape with a very short projection >>>>> at the >>>>> tip. >>>>> >>>>> - pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*) does not have a >>>>> small ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base >>>>> of >>>>> each leaf stalk. Its flowers are very large (up to 25 cm long) with a >>>>> very >>>>> elongated projection at the base of the flower (i.e. appendix) 20-50 cm >>>>> long. Its very large fruit are oblong in shape (about 10 cm long and >>>>> 4-6 cm >>>>> wide). >>>>> >>>>> - fragrant Dutchman's pipe (*Arsitolochia odoratissima*) has a >>>>> small ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base >>>>> of >>>>> each leaf stalk. Its flowers are relatively large and broad (6-12 cm >>>>> wide) >>>>> and its moderately large fruit (4.5-8 cm long and 1-1.5 cm wide) are >>>>> oblong >>>>> in shape and slightly curved. >>>>> >>>>> - gaping Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia ringens*) has a small >>>>> ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each >>>>> leaf stalk. Its flowers are relatively large and narrow (10-25 cm >>>>> long) and >>>>> are split into an upper and lower lobe. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 10 May 2018 at 18:51, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Are the bract like thing also look similar between these two species? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu 10 May, 2018, 5:48 PM Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Checked leaves of both species; they look alike. Let us wait for >>>>>>> flowering. >>>>>>> ID of *Aristolochia gigantea* got from the gardener. >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 4:04 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, Dinesh ji, >>>>>>>> We do not have this species in efi site. >>>>>>>> It looks similar to *Aristolochia elegans* Mast. >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/aristolochiaceae/aristolochia/aristolochia-littoralis> >>>>>>>> in efi site. >>>>>>>> Pl. check. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 23 April 2018 at 21:44, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: TMC Biodiversity Park] >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F40580764695%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEGVLFDRKvmf0HbjBtqXM2slId9ow> >>>>>>>>> TMC Biodiversity Park Thane >>>>>>>>> *Date*: April 22, 2018 ... *Altitude*: about 15 m (50 feet) asl >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> *Aristolochia gigantea* Mart. >>>>>>>>> [image: Aristolochia gigantea Mart.] >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F27751597988%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEnYTlAq1e9_No2ttD-eY8Az3BVdQ> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: Aristolochia gigantea Mart.] >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F41620486471%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGQoX4qlzzwxeAp-46ixIw6mnb0xw> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>> in the world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or >>>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>> Plants >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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