:) Yes Saroj ji ... I have not been lately to this park. I have however seen flowering of *Aristolochia elegans* in another garden of Thane, and posted its pictures in this post <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/X4FCViRQ83U/hH4OkdkWAQAJ>. The chief gardener takes care of both parks. But some day I hope to get pictures of flowers from this site. Regards. Dinesh
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 3:46 PM Saroj Kumar Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > Waiting for flower Dinesh Ji. > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:36:48 AM UTC+5:45, Ushadi wrote: >> >> My pleasure. >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:10 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks very much, Usha di. >>> Regards. >>> dinesh >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:02 PM Ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> like the diligence and collegiality in this thread >>>> thats why we are here >>>> >>>> love it >>>> usha di >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:09 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Garg ji for the keys and analysis. >>>>> Updating this post with the concluded ID ... *Aristolochia elegans* >>>>> Mast. ... as per discussion in another post >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/X4FCViRQ83U/lX8klUh4BwAJ> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 10:04 AM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Garg ji. >>>>>> The posted plant, clearly has a conspicuous ear-like structure >>>>>> (auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each leaf stalk. Thus, as per >>>>>> keys, will be not *A. gigantea*. >>>>>> I suggest we also pay heed to the fruits which are different looking >>>>>> among the above listed species. >>>>>> Will return to this post when I find the plant in flowering as well >>>>>> as fruiting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 5:38 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I could get the differences between the closely elated species from >>>>>>> Lucid >>>>>>> Central >>>>>>> <https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/aristolochia_elegans.htm> >>>>>>> as below: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia elegans*) is similar to several >>>>>>> closely related introduced species that have also become naturalised in >>>>>>> Australia, including pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*), >>>>>>> fragrant Dutchman's pipe (*Arsitolochia odoratissima*) and gaping >>>>>>> Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia ringens*). It is also very similar >>>>>>> to the cultivated giant dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia gigantea*) >>>>>>> which is often confused with pelican flower (*Aristolochia >>>>>>> grandiflora*) in the horticultural industry. These species can be >>>>>>> distinguished by the following differences: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - *Dutchman's pipe (Aristolochia elegans) has a small ear-like >>>>>>> structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each leaf >>>>>>> stalk*. >>>>>>> Its flowers are relatively large and broad (up to 7.5 cm long and 10 >>>>>>> cm >>>>>>> wide) and its relatively large fruit (4-6 cm long and about 2.5 cm >>>>>>> wide) >>>>>>> are oblong in shape with a short projection (about 10 mm long) at >>>>>>> the tip. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - *giant dutchman's pipe (Aristolochia gigantea ) does not >>>>>>> have a small ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> base of each leaf stalk*. Its flowers are very large and broad >>>>>>> (up to 30 cm long and 20 cm wide) and its relatively large fruit (up >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> 8 cm long and 3 cm wide) are oblong in shape with a very short >>>>>>> projection >>>>>>> at the tip. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*) does not have a >>>>>>> small ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the >>>>>>> base of >>>>>>> each leaf stalk. Its flowers are very large (up to 25 cm long) with >>>>>>> a very >>>>>>> elongated projection at the base of the flower (i.e. appendix) 20-50 >>>>>>> cm >>>>>>> long. Its very large fruit are oblong in shape (about 10 cm long and >>>>>>> 4-6 cm >>>>>>> wide). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - fragrant Dutchman's pipe (*Arsitolochia odoratissima*) has a >>>>>>> small ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the >>>>>>> base of >>>>>>> each leaf stalk. Its flowers are relatively large and broad (6-12 cm >>>>>>> wide) >>>>>>> and its moderately large fruit (4.5-8 cm long and 1-1.5 cm wide) are >>>>>>> oblong >>>>>>> in shape and slightly curved. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - gaping Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia ringens*) has a small >>>>>>> ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of >>>>>>> each >>>>>>> leaf stalk. Its flowers are relatively large and narrow (10-25 cm >>>>>>> long) and >>>>>>> are split into an upper and lower lobe. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10 May 2018 at 18:51, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are the bract like thing also look similar between these two >>>>>>>> species? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu 10 May, 2018, 5:48 PM Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Checked leaves of both species; they look alike. Let us wait for >>>>>>>>> flowering. >>>>>>>>> ID of *Aristolochia gigantea* got from the gardener. >>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 4:04 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, Dinesh ji, >>>>>>>>>> We do not have this species in efi site. >>>>>>>>>> It looks similar to *Aristolochia elegans* Mast. >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/aristolochiaceae/aristolochia/aristolochia-littoralis> >>>>>>>>>> in efi site. >>>>>>>>>> Pl. check. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 23 April 2018 at 21:44, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [image: TMC Biodiversity Park] >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F40580764695%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEGVLFDRKvmf0HbjBtqXM2slId9ow> >>>>>>>>>>> TMC Biodiversity Park Thane >>>>>>>>>>> *Date*: April 22, 2018 ... *Altitude*: about 15 m (50 feet) asl >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> *Aristolochia gigantea* Mart. >>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aristolochia gigantea Mart.] >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F27751597988%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEnYTlAq1e9_No2ttD-eY8Az3BVdQ> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aristolochia gigantea Mart.] >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F41620486471%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGQoX4qlzzwxeAp-46ixIw6mnb0xw> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>>> in the world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or >>>>>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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