differential diagnosis between the two is multifactorial to me it looks like Angelica sp (cant go further until i see flowers) though Saroj ji may have to go back for flowers and then take more pictures to demonstrate all the salient points in this pdf including one full branch of the compound leaf leaf.... and absence of hairs, spikes etc on stem , if angelica
see this pdf from univ illinois it seems easy enough https://www.inhs.illinois.edu/files/8314/9848/6126/Hogweed_and_Lookalikes_2017.pdf usha di On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 5:15 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Leaves can be confusing. Earlier I went be the leaves and did not pay > attention to the inflorescence. Leaves in Heracleum and Angelica can be > very confusing. > Pl. check the inflorescence at Angelica oreadum > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/angelica/angelica-archangelica-subsp-himalaica> > and > Heracleum candicans > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/heracleum/heracleum-candicans-1> > and > you will understand the difference. > > In Ashwini ji's thread, we both were confusing- when I suggested Heracleum > candicans > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/heracleum/heracleum-candicans-1>, > he stated Angelica oreadum > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/angelica/angelica-archangelica-subsp-himalaica>. > When I stated Angelica oreadum > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/angelica/angelica-archangelica-subsp-himalaica>, > he stated Heracleum candicans > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/heracleum/heracleum-candicans-1> > . > > On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 16:26, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I still feel it is Angelica archangelica ! >> >> 500 × 500 >> <https://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F01%2Fe6%2Fbd%2F01e6bd487b4c63631fed54a78d6c738e.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F442830575854988956%2F&docid=wHPS0-Gn5KEWpM&tbnid=09Ixf9O3ZZdVjM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwja5Kz-5ZPkAhWJYo8KHbfxD2IQMwijAihgMGA..i&w=500&h=500&client=safari&bih=837&biw=1600&q=Angelica%20archangelica&ved=0ahUKEwja5Kz-5ZPkAhWJYo8KHbfxD2IQMwijAihgMGA&iact=mrc&uact=8> >> 1300 × 975 >> <https://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpreviews.123rf.com%2Fimages%2Fheikerau%2Fheikerau1405%2Fheikerau140500023%2F28041835-garden-angelica-angelica-archangelica.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.123rf.com%2Fphoto_28041835_garden-angelica-angelica-archangelica.html&docid=V3HNYbH9aPVCGM&tbnid=IJHmEDJyC1f-pM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwja5Kz-5ZPkAhWJYo8KHbfxD2IQMwi2ASgjMCM..i&w=1300&h=975&client=safari&bih=837&biw=1600&q=Angelica%20archangelica&ved=0ahUKEwja5Kz-5ZPkAhWJYo8KHbfxD2IQMwi2ASgjMCM&iact=mrc&uact=8> >> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:27 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On further checking, I found your post is of Heracleum candicans >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/heracleum/heracleum-candicans-1> >>> Ashwini ji's post at Angelica oreadum? ABAUG2016/22 >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/KgMaJWFuQaw> is >>> also correct for Heracleum candicans >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/heracleum/heracleum-candicans-1> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 13:59 >>> Subject: Re: SK1920 16 May 2019 >>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>, Pascal Bruggeman < >>> [email protected]>, Dr. Ishwari Rai <[email protected]> >>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, GurcharanSingh < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>> >>> 3 July 2019 at 2543 m. >>> >>> Does these images validate the ID ? >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 10:55 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Pl. check the flowering observations at the efi site link I have >>>> given you. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J. M. Garg >>>> >>>> On Sat 22 Jun, 2019, 11:12 PM Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Mr. Garg / Dr. Rai, >>>>> >>>>> I shall try to visit for flowering. Could you please suggest >>>>> for the flowering season? >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 4:58 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Ishwari ji for the id. >>>>>> Current name seems to be *Angelica oreadum* >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/angelica/angelica-archangelica-subsp-himalaica> >>>>>> as per discussions herein. >>>>>> Although Catalogue of Life >>>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/c76ea00ec060e53536545d18f5265bee/synonym/9e03120b21231dde3693b598aaf0c6ff> >>>>>> gives >>>>>> it as *Angelica archangelica* subsp. *himalaica* (C. B. Cl.) G. >>>>>> Singh & G. M. Oza). >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 at 21:04 >>>>>> Subject: SK1920 16 May 2019 >>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>> >>>>>> Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur, Nepal >>>>>> Altitude: 2512 m. >>>>>> Date: 8 May 2019 >>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>> >>>>>> Araceaec??? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> >>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>> of India'. >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>> Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>> 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>> >>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>> India'. >>> >> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or > Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than > 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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