thank you
On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 11:48 PM Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> wrote: > differential diagnosis between the two is multifactorial > to me it looks like Angelica sp (cant go further until i see flowers) > though Saroj ji may have to go back for flowers > and then take more pictures to demonstrate all the salient points in this > pdf > including one full branch of the compound leaf leaf.... > and absence of hairs, spikes etc on stem , if angelica > > see this pdf from univ illinois > it seems easy enough > > https://www.inhs.illinois.edu/files/8314/9848/6126/Hogweed_and_Lookalikes_2017.pdf > > > > usha di > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 5:15 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Leaves can be confusing. Earlier I went be the leaves and did not pay >> attention to the inflorescence. Leaves in Heracleum and Angelica can be >> very confusing. >> Pl. check the inflorescence at Angelica oreadum >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/angelica/angelica-archangelica-subsp-himalaica> >> and >> Heracleum candicans >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/heracleum/heracleum-candicans-1> >> and >> you will understand the difference. >> >> In Ashwini ji's thread, we both were confusing- when I suggested Heracleum >> candicans >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/heracleum/heracleum-candicans-1>, >> he stated Angelica oreadum >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/angelica/angelica-archangelica-subsp-himalaica>. >> When I stated Angelica oreadum >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/angelica/angelica-archangelica-subsp-himalaica>, >> he stated Heracleum candicans >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/heracleum/heracleum-candicans-1> >> . >> >> On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 16:26, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I still feel it is Angelica archangelica ! >>> >>> 500 × 500 >>> <https://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F01%2Fe6%2Fbd%2F01e6bd487b4c63631fed54a78d6c738e.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F442830575854988956%2F&docid=wHPS0-Gn5KEWpM&tbnid=09Ixf9O3ZZdVjM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwja5Kz-5ZPkAhWJYo8KHbfxD2IQMwijAihgMGA..i&w=500&h=500&client=safari&bih=837&biw=1600&q=Angelica%20archangelica&ved=0ahUKEwja5Kz-5ZPkAhWJYo8KHbfxD2IQMwijAihgMGA&iact=mrc&uact=8> >>> 1300 × 975 >>> <https://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpreviews.123rf.com%2Fimages%2Fheikerau%2Fheikerau1405%2Fheikerau140500023%2F28041835-garden-angelica-angelica-archangelica.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.123rf.com%2Fphoto_28041835_garden-angelica-angelica-archangelica.html&docid=V3HNYbH9aPVCGM&tbnid=IJHmEDJyC1f-pM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwja5Kz-5ZPkAhWJYo8KHbfxD2IQMwi2ASgjMCM..i&w=1300&h=975&client=safari&bih=837&biw=1600&q=Angelica%20archangelica&ved=0ahUKEwja5Kz-5ZPkAhWJYo8KHbfxD2IQMwi2ASgjMCM&iact=mrc&uact=8> >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:27 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On further checking, I found your post is of Heracleum candicans >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/heracleum/heracleum-candicans-1> >>>> Ashwini ji's post at Angelica oreadum? ABAUG2016/22 >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/KgMaJWFuQaw> is >>>> also correct for Heracleum candicans >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/heracleum/heracleum-candicans-1> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 13:59 >>>> Subject: Re: SK1920 16 May 2019 >>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>, Pascal Bruggeman < >>>> [email protected]>, Dr. Ishwari Rai <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, GurcharanSingh < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> 3 July 2019 at 2543 m. >>>> >>>> Does these images validate the ID ? >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 10:55 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Pl. check the flowering observations at the efi site link I have >>>>> given you. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>> >>>>> On Sat 22 Jun, 2019, 11:12 PM Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you Mr. Garg / Dr. Rai, >>>>>> >>>>>> I shall try to visit for flowering. Could you please suggest >>>>>> for the flowering season? >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 4:58 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Ishwari ji for the id. >>>>>>> Current name seems to be *Angelica oreadum* >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apiaceae/angelica/angelica-archangelica-subsp-himalaica> >>>>>>> as per discussions herein. >>>>>>> Although Catalogue of Life >>>>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/c76ea00ec060e53536545d18f5265bee/synonym/9e03120b21231dde3693b598aaf0c6ff> >>>>>>> gives >>>>>>> it as *Angelica archangelica* subsp. *himalaica* (C. B. Cl.) G. >>>>>>> Singh & G. M. Oza). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 at 21:04 >>>>>>> Subject: SK1920 16 May 2019 >>>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur, Nepal >>>>>>> Altitude: 2512 m. >>>>>>> Date: 8 May 2019 >>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Araceaec??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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You can also use them for free as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >> Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >> 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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