On furthers search, I found that our observations in efi site at *Elaeagnus conferta* Roxb. <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/elaeagnaceae/elaeagnus/elaeagnus-conferta> matches with those of *Elaeagnus latifolia* L. <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=3529&cat=7> at
Flora of Karnataka <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ac.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=1550&cat=1> Flora of peninsular India <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=3529&cat=7> Flora of eastern Ghats <http://floraeasternghats.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=1296&cat=4> Also Catalogue of Life <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/6f3d2a549ef2a738a8501cef36baed2b> gives distribution for this species as *S-India, Sri Lanka*, Myanmar [Burma] (Bago, Kachin, Kayin, Mandalay, Sagaing, Shan, Yangon), Malesia, Andamans (Middle Andamans, South Andamans), Nicobars (Central Nicobars, Great Nicobar Isl., Little Nicobar Isl.), Pakistan (I), Bangladesh Catalogue of Life <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/bf43be705e145bba3a8f0eba51321ffa>gives distribution of *Elaeagnus conferta *Roxb. as China (Guangxi, Yunnan), *India, *Laos, Vietnam, Thailand, Java, peninsular Malaysia (Penang, Perak),* Assam, Bangladesh, Myanmar [Burma], Bhutan, Darjeeling*, Indochina, Andaman Isl., Nicobar Isl., Sumatra, Mauritius (I) - I think India here means other than south India. Flora of Pakistan <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=111375> also mention *Elaeagnus latifolia* Linn. <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242422123> with distribution as Burma, Malaya Islands, Sri lanka, China, subtropical and temperate Himalaya, while there is no mention of this in Flora of China <http://www.efloras.org/browse.aspx?flora_id=2&start_taxon_id=111375>, which mentions both *Elaeagnus conferta* Roxburgh& *Elaeagnus angustifolia* Linnaeus (other two species mentioned in Flora of Pakistan), Checklist of Nepal <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=111375> and Flora of Bhutan <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/elaeagnaceae/elaeagnus> . *In view of all this analysis, I feel our observations from South India and Maharashtra, should be taken as Elaeagnus latifolia L. *with *Elaeagnus kologa* Schltdl. as syn. and other synonyms as per Catalogue of Life <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/6f3d2a549ef2a738a8501cef36baed2b> ; On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 17:14, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Note in the book at *Elaeagnus latifolia* L. > <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=3529&cat=7> > further > says: > This taxon has often been segregated into two distinct species on the > basis of perianth and anthocarp shape. The low altitude plants has been > placed under *E. conferta *and higher altitude plants under *E. kologa*. > As the species is a variable one, we have retained the broader Linean > species concept. > > An excursion flora of Central Tamilnadu by K M Mathew (1995), gives > following differences between two species as: > Leaves coppery below, Fascicle > 5-flowered, scales peltate, brown, Nut > winged. Higher hills- *E. kologa* > Leaves silvery below, Fascicle < 4-flowered, scales stellate, silvery > white, Nut not winged. Lower hills- *E. indica* > > > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:59, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have made some mistake earlier. Correct wordings should be >> >> Flora of Peninsular India >> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/index.php> gives the >> following species with details as below: >> >> *Elaeagnus indica *Servett. >> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=3528&cat=7> >> (*Endemic to Andhra pradesh, Karnataka, Kerala and Tamilnadu- Flower, >> fruit- March to June*) >> >> *Elaeagnus latifolia* L. >> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=3529&cat=7> >> (Syn:* Elaeagnus conferta *Roxb.; *Elaeagnus kologa *Sch. in DC.) (S-India, >> Sri Lanka, Myanmar [Burma] (Bago, Kachin, Kayin, Mandalay, Sagaing, >> Shan, Yangon), Malesia, Andamans (Middle Andamans, South Andamans), >> Nicobars (Central Nicobars, Great Nicobar Isl., Little Nicobar Isl.), >> Pakistan >> (I), Bangladesh as per Catalogue of Life >> <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/6f3d2a549ef2a738a8501cef36baed2b> >> - *Karnataka, Kerala, Orissa and Tamilnadu- Flower, fruit- November to >> March*) >> >> I could not find the difference between the two on net. >> >> I could not find the difference between the two on net. >> Going by this (*Flower, fruit- November to March*), most of the >> observations in our site at *Elaeagnus conferta* Roxb. >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/elaeagnaceae/elaeagnus/elaeagnus-conferta> >> should >> be of *E. latifolia*. >> Can someone solve this mystery ? >> >> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:48, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Garg ji. >>> I have not studied this matter; most probably I may not succeed ! >>> There could be more than one *E. latifolia* described, and therefore >>> the confusion. >>> As I said, *Elaeagnus latifolia* *auct non L.* is considered >>> synonymous with *E. conferta* Roxb. >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 3:31 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Useful Tropical plants >>>> <http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Elaeagnus+latifolia> >>>> on Elaeagnus latifolia says as below: >>>> Elaeagnus latifolia, Elaeagnus conferta and Elaeagnos triflora are >>>> sometimes treated as three distinct species and sometimes as a single >>>> entity (under Elaeagnus latifolia). There is also disagreement over the >>>> range of the species, with Elaeagnus latifolia variously stated to be >>>> native to the Indian Continent or to continental southeast Asia. In this >>>> treatment the three are treated as distinct, following the Flora Malesiana. >>>> Many taxa in this genus are separated only by quantitative characters, >>>> and better information on population variation is likely to lead to a >>>> significant reduction in the number of species recognized. Indeed, recent >>>> studies (Du, Fl. Yunnan. 12: 749-776. 2006) suggest that some species of >>>> Elaeagnus should be combined. >>>> Synonyms given are as below: >>>> >>>> *Elaeagnus infundibularis* Momiy. >>>> >>>> *Elaeagnus kologa ceylanica* Servett. >>>> >>>> *Elaeagnus kologa grisebachii* Servett. >>>> >>>> *Elaeagnus kologa macrophylla* Servett. >>>> >>>> *Elaeagnus kologa wightii* Servett. >>>> >>>> *Elaeagnus punctata* Schltdl. >>>> >>>> *Elaeagnus rotundifolia* Servett. >>>> >>>> *Elaeagnus thwaitesii* Schltdl. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 16:19, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear members, >>>>> >>>>> Flora of Peninsular India >>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/index.php> gives the >>>>> following species with details as below: >>>>> >>>>> *Elaeagnus indica* Servett. >>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=3528&cat=7> >>>>> (Syn: *Elaeagnus conferta* Roxb.) (*Endemic to Andhra pradesh, >>>>> Karnataka, Kerala and Tamilnadu- Flower, fruit- March to June*) >>>>> >>>>> *Elaeagnus latifolia* L. >>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=3529&cat=7> >>>>> (S-India, Sri Lanka, Myanmar [Burma] (Bago, Kachin, Kayin, Mandalay, >>>>> Sagaing, Shan, Yangon), Malesia, Andamans (Middle Andamans, South >>>>> Andamans), Nicobars (Central Nicobars, Great Nicobar Isl., Little Nicobar >>>>> Isl.), Pakistan (I), Bangladesh as per Catalogue of Life >>>>> <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/6f3d2a549ef2a738a8501cef36baed2b> >>>>> - *Karnataka, Kerala, Orissa and Tamilnadu- Flower, fruit- November >>>>> to March*) >>>>> >>>>> I could not find the difference between the two on net. >>>>> >>>>> Going by this (*Flower, fruit- November to March*), most of the >>>>> observations in our site at *Elaeagnus conferta* Roxb. >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/elaeagnaceae/elaeagnus/elaeagnus-conferta> >>>>> should >>>>> be of *E. latifolia*. >>>>> Can someone solve this mystery ? >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>> >>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>> >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>> etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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